When is a CL not a CL?

OK - the time has come to reveal that the CL that caused me all the hassle was CL 786 - Cuckoos Corner (Hereford).

I am about to review the CL separately on their page on this web-site.  Please note that it will be mainly Good to Excellent EXCEPT their ability (or unwillingness?) to operate a booking system for a 5-van site!

Thanks to all for your comments.  I understand that the CL department will be adding a footnote to this post.

Thankyou, AJB. I trust your review will mention the problems.

Over-occupancy has been around for a long time. I remember back in the mid eighties staying on a CL that ended up with more than five vans so the problem has been around for at least thirty years.

Hi everyone,

I have a repsonse from the CL Team here at Head Office:

Some land owners who operate a Certificated Location (CL) with the Caravan Club may also have additional camping/caravanning activity on their land which is licenced by the local authority.  If this is the case, the Caravan Club would expect that additional activity to be completely separate from the CL with no shared facilities and that there be no cross marketing between the two activities. 

We do our best to notify members via our website or in our Sites Directory and Handbook if there is an adjacent commercial site.  As it is inappropriate to market a commercial site off the back of a CL, members should be absolutely certain when they make a booking that they are booked onto the CL.

A CL is for a maximum of 5 units ie: caravans, motorhomes or trailer tents at any one time and any breach of this rule if reported will be investigated by the Caravan Club.

Should members identify owners who may not be complying with the conditions of their CL Certificate or are placing members on an adjacent commercial site when they expected to stay on a CL, please email us at clresponse@caravanclub.co.uk or send a short letter to the Caravan Club at East Grinstead House with their findings and any photographs should they be available

Hi everyone,

I have a repsonse from the CL Team here at Head Office:

Some land owners who operate a Certificated Location (CL) with the Caravan Club may also have additional camping/caravanning activity on their land which is licenced by the local authority.  If this is the case, the Caravan Club would expect that additional activity to be completely separate from the CL with no shared facilities and that there be no cross marketing between the two activities. 

 

Rochelle,some months ago I queried the existence of shared facilities and another member of your staff gave a different answer,in effect stating that shared facilities were acceptable as long as it was made clear in the site description, I have always understood like you that shared facilities were not acceptable.-

Thank you for your e-mail about WC facilities on Certificated Locations.

In order for a new CL to open, they are not required to provide WC or shower facilities.  If CL owners choose to provide them we assume, unless we are told differently, that they are for the exclusive use of members.  However if we are informed this is not the case, we will look to either remove or at least advertise these facilities differently making members aware that they are shared facilities.

If you are aware of sites that we are perhaps not advertising as ‘shared facilities’, please let us know and we will update our information

There's one in Yorkshire similar, their website says 5 vans plus unlimited tents, Fair enough if was also a C&CC CS as well, but it isn't.  Caravan area is in the carpark and  reviews state cars parked between units.

We stayed on a CL earlier this year which was infact 2 adjacent CL's, each had 7 hardstanding pitches.  There was also an 'overflow' field with 2 hardstandings.  They were separated by hedges, with rubbish and recycling bins in each field.  

Apart from that, facilities were shared (i.e) showers, toilets, CDP, grey waste emptying.  Also a shared entrance drive.  I'm not sure if this is allowed?