Servicing calls at CLs for Motorcaravans

The survey was not relevant. As far as I could see its results determined only that those asked were prepared to pay £10 for somewhere to park over night - and that they might pay more (an unquantified amount) for a parking place where they could dump and fill.

The Club claims to have recognised the need for "UK Aires"

I assume you mean this club? Could you post a link or quote for this? I can't remember any such claim but I could be wrong?

but if it continues to ignore the requirements of a large proportion of motorhome owners

Could you tell me how those that want Aires or use are a large proportion of motorhomers owners? Do you have any links or data to back this up?

then I can only see the membership declining 

Also are you suggesting that these motorhomes who want and use Aires won't use CAMC sites? That it is one or the other? Personally I don't think that they are mutually exclusive and both can exist successfully.

The Club claims to have recognised the need for "UK Aires" but if it continues to ignore the requirements of a large proportion of motorhome owners and CAMpRA is successful in its goals, then I can only see the membership declining.

Some broad unsubstantiated statements there.

There is no 'need' for Aires but there is no doubt a desire amongst some. 

Not sure how large the proportion of Motorhomers that exclusively desire an Aire that is not fulfilled by using a CL/CS. Of those that exclusively, or principally, desire to us Aires how many of those are club members. The CMC does not presently do Aires. Although 40%(?) of members are motorhomers many use club sites. Would they prefer to use Aires? If the club went to the extent of providing Aires would there costs be recouped - no idea.

Good try at trying to "convince?" others with unsubstantiated comments , as to the what you  and maybe? a that of few others ,that there is a need for what you are extolling  hoping i would think, to convince CLs/CS owners that they should disrupt those stayin on their sites and be "available?" just in case of a MC after illegal? staying away somewhere to dump , needing to dump probably several days efluent for little or no return for the service

Also are you suggesting that these motorhomes who want and use Aires won't use CAMC sites? That it is one or the other? Personally I don't think that they are mutually exclusive and both can exist successfully.

We certainly would associate with this comment. Although we have only done one 6 week tour in France so far, we stopped on 9 Aires and 9 sites. The Aires were generally 1 / 2 night stops, the sites 3 / 4.  

If Aires ever became as easy  to access in the UK, I could see us replicating that.  Although Aires are great for getting close to where you want to be, they are not very good for BBQ’s, having the occasional swim in a pool and doing the necessary washing.

Yes, I don't see, as PD suggested, that the rise of one (Aires) will lead to the decline in club membership, or indeed less MHs using any UK site similar to a club. One simply chooses the site, or stop-over - call it what you will, that appeals to one's needs at the time.

Both can exist and prosper.

Some broad unsubstantiated statements there.

Some are my own views but some are definitely in the public domain for those so inclined to check. Perhaps DSB would like to chip in as to the Club's views and the planned trials the Club has in mind..

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CS,  Believe me the Motorhome boom in France and the widespread provision of Aires has certainly led to the decline in sites - many smaller sites have closed, some are desperately seeking customers by cutting prices via ACSI, some remain unstaffed for much of the day, and others are running a shorter and shorter season.

I don't know whether GB will ever follow suit, the situation here is many years behind them, but in France you cannot say that "both can exist and prosper". Motorhomes and Aires in that country are really hurting campsites and their owners.