Servicing calls at CLs for Motorcaravans

Biggarmac replied on 18/01/2021 17:08

Posted on 18/01/2021 17:08

In 2020 when lockdown was lifted in July there was a surge of members desperate to get out in their units.  Sites were swamped and in some areas it was impossible to find a site.  Many motorcaravanners who had not previously gone off grid (I refuse to use the term wildcamp) found they had no choice.  I was lucky to get three nights on a CL at Blairgowrie during a 10 night tour. and one night on a commercial campsite in the Great Glen.  On other nights I stayed in Pub carparks where I was able to enjoy a meal, in forestry carparks, on coastal carparks and on friends drives.

The big problem was disposing of wastes and filling with water.  Friends with drives were very helpful, but the problem of lack of the type facilities such as there is on the continent was very evident.

On the continent many campsites allow non residents on to service their units, for a fee.  It could be an additional revenue stream for CL owners to allow passing trade to use their service points.  This would be particularly useful for CLs who are full to supplement their income and to reduce the problems which were seem in many popular tourist hotspots last year.  The owners would need to look at what extra costs they would have for this service and what services they would be able to provide.  For instance how much does 100 litres of water cost on a metered supply?  How much each toilet emptying would add to the cost of sewerage?  How much for emptying a greywater supply of say 80 litres?  For comparison the CCC, on some sites, allow members to use site facilities, empty wastes and fill water for £7.30 (last years price).  That also allows for the use of showers.

This would stop the complaint that one night stopovers to dump and fill are blocking longer bookings.  A drop in facility could be a bonus for both CL owners and Motorcaravanners.

JVB66 replied on 21/01/2021 17:08

Posted on 21/01/2021 17:08

I would think ,it would be quite a problem for those wanting to use such a service ,how will they know  if a cl is available for such a service without a sign or list available  i take it the OP would allow all MCs to use the service not just members?

JVB66 replied on 21/01/2021 17:09

Posted on 21/01/2021 17:00 by LLM

Of the few sites we have used in that way I do know that one was not on the mains.

Frankly the whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.  If any CL wishes to offer the service they could do it by letting it be known that it is available at a prearranged time or during certain hours and price.

Posted on 21/01/2021 17:09

Via what mediumundecided

moulesy replied on 21/01/2021 17:16

Posted on 21/01/2021 17:16

"If any CL wishes to offer the service they could do it by letting it be known that it is available at a prearranged time or during certain hours and price."

Fair enough - as a frequent, albeit past, user of club CLs, I'd suggest, say 11:30 to 12:30 to minimise impact on folk actually paying to stay on site and, as per CG's post above, @ £30 a time.

Problem solved! 👍

MikeyA replied on 21/01/2021 18:47

Posted on 21/01/2021 18:47

Interesting info regarding the discharge of domestic waste into a public sewer. You just need to ensure that this is a foul sewer and not a surface water drain

Discharge of domestic waste into a public sewer

I've shown the relevant section for ease:

You do not need a permit:

Discharges in sewered areas

You should discharge your waste water to the public foul sewer whenever it’s reasonable to do so. You do not need an environmental permit to do this.

You must consult your sewerage undertaker before you:

make a new connection to the public sewer
discharge anything other than domestic sewage

 

Maybe you just need your own set of manhole lifting keys!

 

peedee replied on 21/01/2021 19:12

Posted on 21/01/2021 19:12

Peedee. Would you mind sharing with us the source / results of the Survey you quoted that had 9,000 motorhomers respondng?

Ted, the survey was conducted by CAMpRA (Campaign for Real Aires) in Novemeber 2020 to sound out the views of the membership which at the time stood at about 10,000 members. Current membership is just over 15,000 and still growing. It is available on their web site in their document library.

A survey is currently ongoing in Germany and France to also seek the views of motorhome owners over there. All the surveys are obviously aimed at gathering more facts reagarding establishing UK Aires. The strategy document also makes interesting reading.

peedee

JVB66 replied on 21/01/2021 19:46

Posted on 21/01/2021 18:47 by LLM

Whatever they want.

Posted on 21/01/2021 19:46

I can just see once word got round that CL/Cs sites (some?) were allowing a dump and fill facility ,it will be accepted by some? that they can do it at all sites and not just members of the clubs?to cause another problem for owners , 

 

LLM replied on 21/01/2021 20:02

Posted on 21/01/2021 19:47 by JVB66

Any you would recommend?

Posted on 21/01/2021 20:02

No John.  I would leave entirely to the discretion of the CL owner.  

JVB66 replied on 21/01/2021 20:15

Posted on 21/01/2021 20:02 by LLM

No John.  I would leave entirely to the discretion of the CL owner.  

Posted on 21/01/2021 20:15

So it would not work thenundecided

The two seperate  2x  CLs under differnt names on one property we stayed at last year cc site in area fullsurprised had a board with names and where to pitch on a board at entrance as owner/s were not on site except morning and evening ,new toilet block shared by both CLs a prime site for those told Cls offered Dump and Fill to useundecided

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