Network Shrinkage

cyberyacht replied on 11/01/2018 17:09

Posted on 11/01/2018 17:09

I see from the current magazine that we have lost a further 13 CLs with no new ones at all this month. Particularly disconcerting is that yet another one that I have visited has closed. I'm beginning to wonder if a visit from me is the "kiss of death".

Why are we seeing this inexorable decline? Is it the increasing desire for full facilities which make it uneconomic for small operators, a shortage of "a new generation of adventurers"or whatever that buzzphrase was, the minimal cash return that make owners think "it's not worth the bother" or is it really all my fault?

Fisherman replied on 10/03/2018 08:14

Posted on 10/03/2018 08:14

We regularly use Cls but off season why would I pay £15+ for a basic site on the Lleyn peninsular when Haven offer such good value? Its called competition. Like most CC members would  not consider the big sites during school holidays, private or CC.

replied on 10/03/2018 08:38

Posted on 10/03/2018 08:14 by Fisherman

We regularly use Cls but off season why would I pay £15+ for a basic site on the Lleyn peninsular when Haven offer such good value? Its called competition. Like most CC members would  not consider the big sites during school holidays, private or CC.

Posted on 10/03/2018 08:38

I don't generally use CLs. If I did then £4 or £5 would not affect my choice. In the case of the OP - and having read reviews - I would plump for the CC site were it not all grass.

We are intending the LLyn Peninsula as part of our summer tour. The Haven site is then £48 according to the way that I read the info. 

As for £15 for a CL we happily pay that price for a CC site without facilities and would do so in preference to a Haven site if one were available at a lower price. Price is not our prime consideration. 

If the Haven site were more popular at that time of year it would not be £11 I think

Fisherman replied on 10/03/2018 08:46

Posted on 10/03/2018 08:46

The whole idea of this post is "why is the Cl network shrinking"> ET as someone who don't use them I can see your point. Times have changed, expectations are greater, competition  is fiercer. Like you I would not use or pay £48 per pitch at Haven in the summer, lreaving that to families ( Price includes up to 6 people).Other alternatives are then available. Its not price per se that dictates its quality and common sense. Again in July & August you may find the Cls full on the LLeyn, with in many cases more than 5 vans per site. but is such a short season really viable?

replied on 10/03/2018 08:47

Posted on 10/03/2018 08:47

 Wrong Thread embarassed

replied on 10/03/2018 08:59

Posted on 10/03/2018 08:59

I would not use any site on the basis that it was the cheapest option. As for viability I cannot say. 

The main reason that I use CC sites is because I perceive them to provide a better experience than some commercial sites and I have no desire to research. I do have a CL earmarked for use in the Holmes Chapel/Macclesfield area. 

Kennine replied on 10/03/2018 18:49

Posted on 10/03/2018 18:49

Sadly the CL network is indeed shrinking. Many customers only pay their annual fees to the CMC purely to access the CL network.  This plus the fact that commercial sites are improving in leaps and bounds and in so many cases offer better value for money, better facilities and better locations than the traditional CMC "all singing all dancing" sites. This will probably mean that CMC customers will start drifting away to use the many good alternatives.

K  

replied on 10/03/2018 19:37

Posted on 10/03/2018 19:37

I have used 'commercial sites' can't recall any that I preferred to a CC site. Obviously you know better. As I only have my opinion I must bow to your great knowledge of such matters

moulesy replied on 10/03/2018 19:59

Posted on 10/03/2018 19:59

I'm not convinced commercial sites, however cheap their special deals might be, have any relevance to the CL network shrinkage. Why would regular CL users want to use a Haven site as an alternative (other commercial chains are available). I certainly know who I'd rather give my money to. smile

JVB66 replied on 10/03/2018 20:28

Posted on 10/03/2018 18:49 by Kennine

Sadly the CL network is indeed shrinking. Many customers only pay their annual fees to the CMC purely to access the CL network.  This plus the fact that commercial sites are improving in leaps and bounds and in so many cases offer better value for money, better facilities and better locations than the traditional CMC "all singing all dancing" sites. This will probably mean that CMC customers will start drifting away to use the many good alternatives.

K  

Posted on 10/03/2018 20:28

Is that what your club have also noticed? ,seeing as you seem so well up with the "information?"you have about the cc being so "behind" with their facilities and not in the "loss leader"prices of other companieswink

Metheven replied on 10/03/2018 23:00

Posted on 10/03/2018 23:00

I don't think I'm alone in using the CL network for reasons other than price, why would I choose a Haven site over a CL on cost alone. That is not what a CL means to me, CL's hold other values of importance that bigger sites cannot compete with.

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