Lack of proper CL site information

footlooserv replied on 23/07/2020 17:52

Posted on 23/07/2020 17:52

Who else out there is fed up with CL listings that are so far out of date (prices from 2016 etc) and no photos to show what the site is like? Many do not have emails and consequently you need to make phone calls for prices etc. You then risk booking a site and turn up to find it is not desirable - or as recently having talked to people the very old 8 year bad reviews are totally wrong with the site having changed hands - no new reviews as people seem to be avoiding it.

Surley the Club should police the CL advertisements insisteing that there are photos and also up tp date prices for year beginning.

peedee replied on 24/07/2020 13:23

Posted on 24/07/2020 11:11 by Tinwheeler

I'm not talking about CT - the forum, PD, but about their listing on the CAMC website and in the handbook. That is a CL's only official listing and is where members will find details of all CL's. They can also promote their sites wherever they like but I think they abandon the one and only official listing at their peril.

Posted on 24/07/2020 13:23

The book is always going to be out of date because it is only issued every 2 years. Prices are always likely to be out of date especially in the book but less chance on the web site. Even if they do vary it is not usually by much and not worth worrying about if you accept it as a guide price. If you turn up and find otherwise you can always drive off to somewhere else.

I only ever use the C&MC book when there is no phone signal and it is very rare I need to because most of my planning is done at home where I have a good connection. I don't have any books for the C&CC. and have never needed them.

peedee

Tinwheeler replied on 24/07/2020 13:36

Posted on 24/07/2020 13:23 by peedee

The book is always going to be out of date because it is only issued every 2 years. Prices are always likely to be out of date especially in the book but less chance on the web site. Even if they do vary it is not usually by much and not worth worrying about if you accept it as a guide price. If you turn up and find otherwise you can always drive off to somewhere else.

I only ever use the C&MC book when there is no phone signal and it is very rare I need to because most of my planning is done at home where I have a good connection. I don't have any books for the C&CC. and have never needed them.

peedee

Posted on 24/07/2020 13:36

The point is that CL owners need to keep their listing as up to date as possible on the website/book and not ignore it in favour of FB.

peedee replied on 24/07/2020 13:51

Posted on 24/07/2020 13:36 by Tinwheeler

The point is that CL owners need to keep their listing as up to date as possible on the website/book and not ignore it in favour of FB.

Posted on 24/07/2020 13:51

Cann't say I have ever seen prices mentioned on FB when owners plug their sites. There may well be links to their own web site though rather than the Club's where increasingly you can book on line and lately you are requested to pay up front by bank transfer or card. This could well be the legacy of CV19.

peedee.

 

KeefySher replied on 24/07/2020 13:58

Posted on 24/07/2020 13:58

Using google maps when looking for a site, be it Club / commercial / cl / 5 van site brings up reviews with images often enough.

A quick view on street view gives a reasonable idea of the vista.

last thing I use is the club website or handbook.

Often sites with no reviews hide diamonds. Why tell the world and his wife of a gem you've found?

 

For over 12 years used to ski at a small, almost deserted village in France. Never told a soul. Then someone let on to a local radio DJ back in the U.K. who broadcast it. Next thing featured in a Sunday supplement and is now over run and commercialised beyond recognition. Sainte-Foy-Tarentaise

Takethedogalong replied on 24/07/2020 17:42

Posted on 24/07/2020 17:42

We tend to do a lot of our own research. CLs are often listed elsewhere, such as UKcampsites, Pitchup, Etc..... Plus we are always on look out for somewhere new when we visit different areas. We check locations and surroundings via OS maps and Google Earth, read any reviews (sifting out the rants and the strange!). We don’t mind emailing or telephoning with any questions we might have as well. 

It would be good if Club and CL owners could make sure details are as up to date as possible though, and if some decent photos are available.

roserene replied on 24/07/2020 20:14

Posted on 24/07/2020 20:14

And i for one hope they do not, otherwise the price will go through the roof as it has on club sites due to members wanting toilets and electrics and all the other mod cons.

The latest problem I've seen on a cl is a member with an electric car and two electric bikes, quite happily charging these at the expense of the site owner, Come on this is not right. BUT of course it will soon be the norm and guess who will be paying? all the members who don't have

electric cars and bikes

Tinwheeler replied on 24/07/2020 20:59

Posted on 24/07/2020 20:14 by roserene

And i for one hope they do not, otherwise the price will go through the roof as it has on club sites due to members wanting toilets and electrics and all the other mod cons.

The latest problem I've seen on a cl is a member with an electric car and two electric bikes, quite happily charging these at the expense of the site owner, Come on this is not right. BUT of course it will soon be the norm and guess who will be paying? all the members who don't have

electric cars and bikes

Posted on 24/07/2020 20:59

Why would decent details and pics on their own listing on the website push prices up? There are all sorts of CLs with varying levels of facilities so we can all choose what suits.

Taking advantage of the EHU supply in a way that is unfair is of course something for CL owners to police but it has nothing to do with keeping their details updated.

DavidKlyne replied on 24/07/2020 21:01

Posted on 24/07/2020 13:36 by Tinwheeler

The point is that CL owners need to keep their listing as up to date as possible on the website/book and not ignore it in favour of FB.

Posted on 24/07/2020 21:01

Is there any evidence that is the case? I would have thought that those that post on Facebook are internet savvy and would want to keep all channels open for new customers including their own entry on the Club website? Those that don't add photographs and are laxed in updating the information are clearly not too bothered with new customers? My answer to the problem would be not to list a CL until it had completed all aspects of it's entry.

Tinwheeler replied on 24/07/2020 21:12

Posted on 24/07/2020 21:01 by DavidKlyne

Is there any evidence that is the case? I would have thought that those that post on Facebook are internet savvy and would want to keep all channels open for new customers including their own entry on the Club website? Those that don't add photographs and are laxed in updating the information are clearly not too bothered with new customers? My answer to the problem would be not to list a CL until it had completed all aspects of it's entry.

Posted on 24/07/2020 21:12

You’ve answered your own point, David. It doesn’t need evidence as it’s obvious that details on this website should be up to date and you have cited a remedy 👍🏻

nelliethehooker replied on 24/07/2020 21:27

Posted on 24/07/2020 21:27

However, David, some of those CL that have not added photos or kept their details up to date have been open for a very long time, and could well be owned by elderly folk who are not internet savvy. Why should their site be excluded from the list, they may well get .many visitors, especially regulars, but would welcome newcomers, I'm sure.

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