Exceeding 5 vans

The clubs website it seems is not really helping with pitch availability even  on club sites i have looked at late availability for this weekend and several areas show no availability this weekend ,but if looking at sites in those ares there is availability on some

Old, old story. 1) its a cash business 2) The LA is not interested in policing it 3) not sure if the club is that interested 4) Its quite easy to get planning for small sites  and ironically using the excess usage as a means to show (a) no problems with highway access  (b) no problems with neighbours. The network is shrinking and I guess many are moving  the small site route to make it viable. With the need go for Hard standings, EHU, then the 5 rule is just antiquated. Until someone grasps the problem and gets the antiquated rules reviewed the network will just fade away.

Until all the major  exemption certificate holders get together and lobby HMG the legal restriction for 5van sites  will not change 

A farm owner near here simply said to himself , Why am I wearing this 5 van straitjacket? So went down the road which Fisherman has eloquently spelled out, got planning permission, opened a second field, welcomed more people and counted the cash. 

I don't think the law will change, and the Clubs don't want it to,  but individual  land owners will continue to make their own decisions.

I agree with the 2 above. Lethargy will lead to the eventual demise of C;s. Ironically the other club has 5 vans & 10 tents. To the authorities 15 UNITS. When you look at the size of todays tents it just does not make any sense. Fortunately old age means I no longer use Cls which was the mainstay of my vanning.

To be honest I would have been mightily hacked off as I’d booked so far in advance! 

Having been a vanner for 25 years using predominantly CLs, as we do love them, my question was purely out of interest ..... wondering how many owners will break the rules to recoup the money they’ve lost (like the one I am currently on) and asking for people’s thoughts, most of which have been given - thank you.   In our experience not many do but given the current situation, I can see why this would happen. 

For info - this owner has two CLs both with water, CDP and bins with 6 pitches on each, plus splitters for extras if needed.   I did notice a new CL just up the road which we might try for our next visit to the area   

This issue has been raised before along with the suggestion of getting the number of allowed vans increased. This has met with resistance on the basis of "letting sleeping dogs lie". Given the enthusiasm for boosting the economy currently, perhaps now is the optimum time to put forward such a proposal, say to eight vans, subject to any increase above five being conditional on a site being a minimum of 1 acre.

Do people think this should be put to CAMC, C&CC etc.?

Would it be a better option to get both clubs at 15 Units say depending on site size. Its UNITS that planners  deal in. I would leave figures  to the negotiators, but reality is nothing will change, except the increasing decline in Cl's

0.5 acre is ample for 5 vans though Cyber. depends on shape of field

At present, CY, this club can’t even cope with communicating simple facts to members. Do you honestly feel they'd welcome such a suggestion at this time?

I rather think the Govt also has its hands full dealing with other matters at present.