CLs with Glamping

 

Wot if the CL owner decides to throw the towel in due to your complaint? 

It would be very sad to see the closure of any CL however I would be interested to know where you would draw the line, next year two pods on the CL, another one the following year etc. As I said before the CL owner used the Caravan Club exemption certificate complete with its rules to circumnavigate the planning system and that means providing CC members with what they have paid for, a site exclusive to five CC members.

 

Wot if the CL owner decides to throw the towel in due to your complaint? 

It would be very sad to see the closure of any CL however I would be interested to know where you would draw the line, next year two pods on the CL, another one the following year etc. As I said before the CL owner used the Caravan Club exemption certificate complete with its rules to circumnavigate the planning system and that means providing CC members with what they have paid for, a site exclusive to five CC members.

Do you know for a fact the CL owner circumvented the regulations pertinent to a CL, or is it conjecture on your part?

My take is quite simple, or pragmatic, a CL providing facilities for 5 units is to be supported. I don't really care if there are pods, cottages, hotels or blocks of flats at the same locale. To have provided those other facilities would have met the requisite roolz and to be blunt is none of my business nor yours 

You have a choice to support the CL or not, not a difficult decision. 

 

 

Wot if the CL owner decides to throw the towel in due to your complaint? 

It would be very sad to see the closure of any CL however I would be interested to know where you would draw the line, next year two pods on the CL, another one the following year etc. As I said before the CL owner used the Caravan Club exemption certificate complete with its rules to circumnavigate the planning system and that means providing CC members with what they have paid for, a site exclusive to five CC members.

Do you know for a fact the CL owner circumvented the regulations pertinent to a CL, or is it conjecture on your part?

My take is quite simple, or pragmatic, a CL providing facilities for 5 units is to be supported. I don't really care if there are pods, cottages, hotels or blocks of flats at the same locale. To have provided those other facilities would have met the requisite roolz and to be blunt is none of my business nor yours 

You have a choice to support the CL or not, not a difficult decision. 

What I actually said was "the CL owner used the Caravan Club exemption certificate complete with its rules to circumnavigate the planning system" and then ignored the rules they had agreed to.Fact. I too don't really care if there are pods, cottages, (although unlike you I would draw the line at hotels and  blocks of flats) at the same locale as long as they are not on the CL. You too have the choice of using a commercial site etc if you cannot accept the rules and want to be on a site with more than five units, , not a difficult decision. 

 

 

 

Wot if the CL owner decides to throw the towel in due to your complaint? 

It would be very sad to see the closure of any CL however I would be interested to know where you would draw the line, next year two pods on the CL, another one the following year etc. As I said before the CL owner used the Caravan Club exemption certificate complete with its rules to circumnavigate the planning system and that means providing CC members with what they have paid for, a site exclusive to five CC members.

Do you know for a fact the CL owner circumvented the regulations pertinent to a CL, or is it conjecture on your part?

My take is quite simple, or pragmatic, a CL providing facilities for 5 units is to be supported. I don't really care if there are pods, cottages, hotels or blocks of flats at the same locale. To have provided those other facilities would have met the requisite roolz and to be blunt is none of my business nor yours 

You have a choice to support the CL or not, not a difficult decision. 

What I actually said was "the CL owner used the Caravan Club exemption certificate complete with its rules to circumnavigate the planning system" and then ignored the rules they had agreed to.Fact. I too don't really care if there are pods, cottages, (although unlike you I would draw the line at hotels and  blocks of flats) at the same locale as long as they are not on the CL. You too have the choice of using a commercial site etc if you cannot accept the rules and want to be on a site with more than five units, , not a difficult decision. 

 

Interestingly, we are currently looking at properties where we could incorporate a CL/CS/5 van site with other holiday and liesure facilities as a long term venture. The overriding negative that comes up is if a 'jobsworth' visitor arrives, despite knowing what is on site beforehand, then makes a complaint. CL owners are not going to make a living from CL provision on it's own and probably as caravanners themselves want to 'give back' to other caravanners would not be prepared to take the chance. Sometimes you have to be careful  what you wish for 

 

 

Interestingly, we are currently looking at properties where we could incorporate a CL/CS/5 van site with other holiday and liesure facilities as a long term venture. The overriding negative that comes up is if a 'jobsworth' visitor arrives, despite knowing what is on site beforehand, then makes a complaint. CL owners are not going to make a living from CL provision on it's own and probably as caravanners themselves want to 'give back' to other caravanners would not be prepared to take the chance. Sometimes you have to be careful  what you wish for 

You have obviously not read all my posts on this subject otherwise you would see that i have repeated several times that I do not have a problem with other holiday and liesure facilities on the same property, quite the contrary.All I can say is that if you think a customer  who books a CL knowing the rules and regulations and arrives to find it has been mis advertised is "a  jobsworth", you should not be running a business of any kind.

KeefySher, I previously posted on this thread about a CL close to me that wanted to add 2 shepherds huts to the CL site, the planning decision and the view of the CC.

 When a CL is established it is made quite clear the boundries of the CL and the rules that apply to the granting of the certificate. It is not difficult to run a CL by sticking to the rules. Of course it’s not going to huge money spinner for the work that has to be put in, and running another business beside it would be a bonus. So if you are looking for a property to run a CL alongside another venture make sure you buy sufficient land and just keep the two ventures separate and everyone is happy.  

KeefySher, I previously posted on this thread about a CL close to me that wanted to add 2 shepherds huts to the CL site, the planning decision and the view of the CC.

 When a CL is established it is made quite clear the boundries of the CL and the rules that apply to the granting of the certificate. It is not difficult to run a CL by sticking to the rules. Of course it’s not going to huge money spinner for the work that has to be put in, and running another business beside it would be a bonus. So if you are looking for a property to run a CL alongside another venture make sure you buy sufficient land and just keep the two ventures separate and everyone is happy.  

Your example was to remove 2 caravan 'pitches' , reducing the CL to 3, replace with Shepherds huts with planning permission and run under the CL certificate if my interpretation is correct. Rightly it was rejected.

As you rightly mention keeping seperation is crucial and communicating that would be a key part of establishing a CL in order to not fall foul of misunderstanding on the part of users 

Was your CL near Wimbourne, in a copse behind a bungalow?

Yes, that's correct KeefySher. It closed last year.

It is interesting to note that i am receiving a lot of promotional detail from Glamping pod manufacturers, so they must be getting lists of CL Owners from somewhere. Just means more waste for the bin !!.

David    www.perthshirecl.co.uk