CLs with Glamping

Harryt replied on 07/11/2016 11:21

Posted on 07/11/2016 11:21

One of our granddaughters wants to go glamping with us in our caravan.The current search criteria for CLs does not allow one to search for glamping. Her family do not have any camping equipment such as sleeping backs so glamping facilities wiih everything supplied is needed. I know that they exist as there is one near Stirling. However for this time we need one in either North Wales or the Lake District. Has anybody any ideas?  

Thanks

Harry 

nelliethehooker replied on 22/11/2016 18:54

Posted on 22/11/2016 18:54

One nights income from a Shepherds Hut equals 5 vans onsite, perhaps something like a Hut makes the CL more viable to run and would ensure that more CL's keep open for your enjoyment.

 

I am not disputing that but it should not be on the CL.When I enter a CL I expect to be one of  maximum of five because that is what I have paid for and those are the regulations.The CL owners have agreed to the regulations in order to avoid having planning consent then abuse the priviledge to the detriment of members.

Perhaps we could have a comment from a CL owner with one of these statics or shepherds huts regarding what they've been told or believe that the regulations allow. Or even better it would be good to hear from HO what the definite position is, and then either backup or refute what you believe the regulations to say, Vulcan.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/11/2016 15:37

Posted on 23/11/2016 15:37

How many CLs have you used Vulcan, just out of interest? 

After 30 years of using them, the length and breadth of the U.K, we have come across all sorts of combinations, where the owners have a small five van site, but then may offer visitors the option of holiday cottage, bed and breakfast, a pod, a yurt, a glamping tent, a gypsy caravan, a shepherds hut, a vintage glamping van, a small commercial site, a rally field or any combination of the above. All with the appropriate planning permission in place. Some even offer stabling for horses! Most of these places are extremely well run and welcoming sites, looking to make a decent go of running a business either as a sole venture, or supplementing farming with a bit of diversification. A quick look at either the owners website, or reviews elsewhere will tell you whatever is on site. Then you can decide if this is not a place you want to visit. So long as there are only five caravans or MH on the CL area, then what they are doing is perfectly within planning regulations.

Vulcan replied on 23/11/2016 18:28

Posted on 23/11/2016 18:28

 

Perhaps we could have a comment from a CL owner with one of these statics or shepherds huts regarding what they've been told or believe that the regulations allow. Or even better it would be good to hear from HO what the definite position is, and then either backup or refute what you believe the regulations to say, Vulcan.

I am still waiting for an answer from CC.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/11/2016 18:31

Posted on 23/11/2016 18:31

That will take some time Vulcan, you could answer my question though to pass the time? I am just interested in your experiences, that's all. Agree that better if no more than five tourers on site, but other forms of holiday accommodation are very different, static.Happy

Vulcan replied on 23/11/2016 18:40

Posted on 23/11/2016 18:40

How many CLs have you used Vulcan, just out of interest? 

After 30 years of using them, the length and breadth of the U.K, we have come across all sorts of combinations, where the owners have a small five van site, but then may offer visitors the option of holiday cottage, bed and breakfast, a pod, a yurt, a glamping tent, a gypsy caravan, a shepherds hut, a vintage glamping van, a small commercial site, a rally field or any combination of the above. All with the appropriate planning permission in place. Some even offer stabling for horses! Most of these places are extremely well run and welcoming sites, looking to make a decent go of running a business either as a sole venture, or supplementing farming with a bit of diversification. A quick look at either the owners website, or reviews elsewhere will tell you whatever is on site. Then you can decide if this is not a place you want to visit. So long as there are only five caravans or MH on the CL area, then what they are doing is perfectly within planning regulations.

For what it's worth I have been using CL's for approx 40 years. If you had read my posts properly you would see that I have no problem with CL owners having other business interests,quite the contrary, however I do not think they should be on the same site as a CL.Look at it logically,what is the point of legislating to only allow 5 caravans on a CL if you then allow a glamping pod etc on it, it makes a mockery of the regulations.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/11/2016 18:56

Posted on 23/11/2016 18:56

Most of the none tourer type units we have seen are either sited slightly away from the tourers, or have a privacy hedge/fence/etc... around them. Folks booking them will be paying a great deal more than  a CL pitch fee, and discerning owners usually cater for this. Not stayed on a CL with separate Pods yet, but they are only a wooden walled tent, so wouldn't bother us. Heck, even the Club have invested in them to try and attract new users. We like innovation though.

Vulcan replied on 23/11/2016 19:05

Posted on 23/11/2016 19:05

Most of the none tourer type units we have seen are either sited slightly away from the tourers, or have a privacy hedge/fence/etc... around them. Folks booking them will be paying a great deal more than  a CL pitch fee, and discerning owners usually cater for this. Not stayed on a CL with separate Pods yet, but they are only a wooden walled tent, so wouldn't bother us. Heck, even the Club have invested in them to try and attract new users. We like innovation though.

But the 2 example links provided on here clearly show the pods etc on the CL.

Here are some of the requirements when opening a CL

You will be asked to agree to the following conditions

  • You can only take a maximum of 5 caravans, motor caravans or trailer tents at a time
  • Visitors must be members of The Caravan Club
  • Visitors must be touring for leisure with their caravan or motor caravan
  • No caravan or motor caravan should stay for more than 28 days at a time
  • Sites are for recreational use and not for storage or permanently sited vans
  • No tents on site
  • CL owners will be required to be Members of The Caravan Club

How can having a pod etc on the CL comply with the first three requirements.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/11/2016 19:05

Posted on 23/11/2016 19:05

The shepherds Hut at Mill House is a self contained unit with its own ensuite bathroom and plumbing, and very lovely it is as well. Rather enhances the beauty of the CL in my opinion. Hardly going to encroach on tourers facilities. Happy

The one at Barleywood is in its own garden, again with its own facilities, so nothing to worry about. I am sure the owners will have had to get planning permission.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/11/2016 19:16

Posted on 23/11/2016 19:16

Is it just pods you object to Vulcan? There are lots of CL's that have small commercial sites adjacent, fenced off from 5 van area. Some have a CS or another CL area as well, all with seperate amenities. Some commercial sites set aside an area purely for CC members, again fenced off with own amenities. They are not unusual, that is the point I am trying to make. I do agree that if anything other than just 5 vans are on the site, it would make good sense for owners to let members know, as a few want exclusive use and may get upset if things aren't as expected. But most holiday accommodation "extras" enhance CLs and allow none touring family and friends to be together. 

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