CL Site Owners' Website

CholseyGrange replied on 14/01/2021 15:48

Posted on 14/01/2021 15:48

If you are a keen supporter of the CL network you might like to know that there's a dedicated support group for CL owners where they share best practice, information and encourage other landowners to set up new CLs. 

The group liaises with the Club on a regular basis, but like the CLs themeselves, it is entirely independent. The group receives no financial support or direction from the Club.The group was formed in 2014 and now has over 600 members.  Find out more on our website

How you can help: If you are visiting a CL and think they could benefit from advice or support from fellow CL owners, please point them in the direction of the group.  Likewise, if you know someone with a great spot for a new CL, the Owners Group website is a complementary source of information to the Clubs own guide for setting up a CL.

The group is entirely run by volunteers (all CL owners), is free to join and welcomes feedback from CAMC members, especially those with knowledge of the CL network!

Tinwheeler replied on 17/01/2021 20:08

Posted on 17/01/2021 19:16 by davetommo

I would like to know because as the price of electric crops up regular it would be nice to know how much of the pitch pice is for Electric. As for pricing being his affair I would also think that it is also the customers affair. Or let’s put it another way if they meter the electric how much would the pitch fee reduce..

Posted on 17/01/2021 20:08

The only concern of the customer is how much he has to pay which is either found acceptable or not. Do you go into a supermarket and strive to break down their costs?

As for how much pitch fees might reduce if electricity was metered, there are far too many unknown and variable factors to determine this. You're effectively asking how long is a piece of string.

Takethedogalong replied on 17/01/2021 20:33

Posted on 17/01/2021 19:40 by davetommo

I did read that. So if they don’t want to divulge what they charge to substantiate the excessive electric usage then maybe they are cheesed off that they are not making enough on the extra for electric that they charge.

Posted on 17/01/2021 20:33

Define “they” to me please🤷‍♀️

Is that individual “they”, CL Owners Group “they”, or the whole CL network “they”?

 

davetommo replied on 17/01/2021 20:52

Posted on 17/01/2021 20:33 by Takethedogalong

Define “they” to me please🤷‍♀️

Is that individual “they”, CL Owners Group “they”, or the whole CL network “they”?

 

Posted on 17/01/2021 20:52

Do you not realise that as we are talking about cl owners “plural” ie more than one then they are they 

davetommo replied on 17/01/2021 21:00

Posted on 17/01/2021 20:08 by Tinwheeler

The only concern of the customer is how much he has to pay which is either found acceptable or not. Do you go into a supermarket and strive to break down their costs?

As for how much pitch fees might reduce if electricity was metered, there are far too many unknown and variable factors to determine this. You're effectively asking how long is a piece of string.

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:00

Does that mean that in your world I am not allowed to question the CL owners about electric costs. As it is such a big concern to then then they should answer. Also I am asking them and not you.


 As for the super market bit there is a world if difference between a super market and CL

 

 

 

DavidKlyne replied on 17/01/2021 21:07

Posted on 17/01/2021 18:11 by davetommo

What I would like to know is how much of the pitch fee does a CL allow for electric use.

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:07

On page 7 of the thread the OP stated that whilst some people may only use £2/3 worth of electrics a heavy user might use as much as £8. My own little experiment, which you responded to and I have quoted you, would suggest that our own use per day in cold weather would be in the region of £5+ if we didn't supplement the supply with gas. In the morning when having showers I do sometimes run on both as gas gives a faster water heating as I don't wan't Margaret to suffer a cold showersmile 

Obviously there will be a big difference between summer and winter so if a CL or campsite don't adjust their prices to account for the extra cost that suggests they are subsidising people who use their sites in the winter. Some may see things in the round but if I was a CL owner I would certainly think about adding a £2/3 surcharge with perhaps the option of a £2 reduction if someone didn't use electrics at all? Perhaps CL owners don't look at things in such detail but when they look at their end of year figures would they not be tempted just the increase their general price?

David

Takethedogalong replied on 17/01/2021 21:09

Posted on 17/01/2021 20:52 by davetommo

Do you not realise that as we are talking about cl owners “plural” ie more than one then they are they 

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:09

Not necessarily. According to OED.......

“They” most often turns singular in common usage when its antecedent is considered generic, not referring to a single known person

Either way, I don’t think you are going to get a definitive response from any CL owner, as every CL business model tends to be very different. I don’t think it’s because it’s a massive secret, some mystery never divulged to mere visitors, more because it something that isn’t easily quantified, and might vary season by season, year by year.

Most visitors will probably base their chosen stay on an overall cost per night, rather than an in depth analysis of a business plan, surely🤷‍♀️

davetommo replied on 17/01/2021 21:18

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:07 by DavidKlyne

On page 7 of the thread the OP stated that whilst some people may only use £2/3 worth of electrics a heavy user might use as much as £8. My own little experiment, which you responded to and I have quoted you, would suggest that our own use per day in cold weather would be in the region of £5+ if we didn't supplement the supply with gas. In the morning when having showers I do sometimes run on both as gas gives a faster water heating as I don't wan't Margaret to suffer a cold showersmile 

Obviously there will be a big difference between summer and winter so if a CL or campsite don't adjust their prices to account for the extra cost that suggests they are subsidising people who use their sites in the winter. Some may see things in the round but if I was a CL owner I would certainly think about adding a £2/3 surcharge with perhaps the option of a £2 reduction if someone didn't use electrics at all? Perhaps CL owners don't look at things in such detail but when they look at their end of year figures would they not be tempted just the increase their general price?

David

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:18

I would like to hear from a CL owner

davetommo replied on 17/01/2021 21:20

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:09 by Takethedogalong

Not necessarily. According to OED.......

“They” most often turns singular in common usage when its antecedent is considered generic, not referring to a single known person

Either way, I don’t think you are going to get a definitive response from any CL owner, as every CL business model tends to be very different. I don’t think it’s because it’s a massive secret, some mystery never divulged to mere visitors, more because it something that isn’t easily quantified, and might vary season by season, year by year.

Most visitors will probably base their chosen stay on an overall cost per night, rather than an in depth analysis of a business plan, surely🤷‍♀️

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:20

As for your second paragraph is that right.

As for the 3rd paragraph I would like to hear from a CL owner not someone who does not know the answer trying to guess

As for the 4th I didn’t want an in depth business  plan just to know how much of the cost of a pitch goes to electric use.

nelliethehooker replied on 17/01/2021 21:24

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:18 by davetommo

I would like to hear from a CL owner

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:24

There are plenty of CLs with their own email addresses printed in the SD or available on the club's CL pages. Why don't you select a few and email them personally asking them for a breakdown of there charges and then should they wish to give that information you'll have your answer in private. They may not wish to publish the breakdown on here for all who look in to see.

JVB66 replied on 17/01/2021 21:24

Posted on 17/01/2021 18:11 by davetommo

What I would like to know is how much of the pitch fee does a CL allow for electric use.

Posted on 17/01/2021 21:24

That is a question that would be how much it costs to run a CL  without the cost of the electicity and stil have some money left over for future repairs/investment to keep it open 

What costs wold you think a CL owner has? not prices just what it needs to keep running

As DK posted how much it cost him with just his heating on low

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