CL or not?

viatorem replied on 02/08/2021 18:03

Posted on 02/08/2021 18:03

We had a meet up with some friends and left the CL booking to them as it was their turn to choose. It was a superb location and with good facilities if slightly compact for 5 vans, however the site can be booked online with no club membership number requirement. I am sure that this is the case for many CL's with websites along with FB booking groups etc.  It was apparent that several pitches were probably occupied by non members, I'm not adverse to this as it is similar to some club sites although wardens are then present to ensure sanity prevails. Maybe there should be categories of CL to cater for non members just so we know when booking?

JVB66 replied on 02/08/2021 18:12

Posted on 02/08/2021 18:12

No CL is allowed to take non members to stay as it is breaking the agreement to be able to operate as a CL ,if you do find  it happening , please advise the club because they could be depriving members of the club their right to stayfrown 

Non members staying on club sites are not only expected to follow club rules they also are charged £13.00per night over what the site they are on site charges aresurprised

 

JohnM20 replied on 02/08/2021 19:06

Posted on 02/08/2021 18:12 by JVB66

No CL is allowed to take non members to stay as it is breaking the agreement to be able to operate as a CL ,if you do find  it happening , please advise the club because they could be depriving members of the club their right to stayfrown 

Non members staying on club sites are not only expected to follow club rules they also are charged £13.00per night over what the site they are on site charges aresurprised

 

Posted on 02/08/2021 19:06

I reported a site in July last year with a reminder 6 months later. The "CL" booking website still does not mention CaMC membership requirement 12 months on.

brue replied on 02/08/2021 19:20

Posted on 02/08/2021 19:20

The words "appear" and "probably" should perhaps not be used in the context of who is using a site. It is important that misinformation is not promoted unless real facts are known.  

We've recently booked a CL, they were using the recently formed CL owners group booking system (we weren't aware of this till we logged onto the personal web site not via the group one.) We were quite definitely asked for our membership number. This particular group promotes the proper use of CLs.

Tinwheeler replied on 02/08/2021 19:39

Posted on 02/08/2021 19:39

I think suspicions are sufficient grounds to bring a possible breach of exemption rules to the club. It is then up to the club to investigate.

I remember TG's recent stay on a CL with more than 5 vans. When questioned the site owner claimed the club was OK with the situation due to exceptional circumstances. We were then told by Maddie that the club would never authorise exceeding the 5 van limit. I quote this as an example of how it is unlikely any one of us can establish the facts so reporting suspicious activity is all we can do.

eurortraveller replied on 02/08/2021 21:46

Posted on 02/08/2021 21:46

Let me beg to differ with those who seem to want to keep non members out. By all means charge a reduced site fee to those who have a paid a Club membership subscription, but  I firmly believe that camping, caravanning and motorhoming is a democratic pastime and that sites should be open to all. This Club has a long history of being rather elitist and superior - it’s time that “members only” attitudes ended and that everyone should be made welcome. 

Tinwheeler replied on 02/08/2021 22:25

Posted on 02/08/2021 21:46 by eurortraveller

Let me beg to differ with those who seem to want to keep non members out. By all means charge a reduced site fee to those who have a paid a Club membership subscription, but  I firmly believe that camping, caravanning and motorhoming is a democratic pastime and that sites should be open to all. This Club has a long history of being rather elitist and superior - it’s time that “members only” attitudes ended and that everyone should be made welcome. 

Posted on 02/08/2021 22:25

You frequently make such comments regarding the exemption system, Euro, and I don’t necessarily disagree with you but you know it is outwith the club’s power to change the existing arrangement. Have you contacted your MP about it?

obbernockle replied on 02/08/2021 22:31

Posted on 02/08/2021 21:46 by eurortraveller

Let me beg to differ with those who seem to want to keep non members out. By all means charge a reduced site fee to those who have a paid a Club membership subscription, but  I firmly believe that camping, caravanning and motorhoming is a democratic pastime and that sites should be open to all. This Club has a long history of being rather elitist and superior - it’s time that “members only” attitudes ended and that everyone should be made welcome. 

Posted on 02/08/2021 22:31

That attitude is fine if we are all not paying a membership fee. We regularly use CL's and pay our membership fee simply because we want to exercise our member's right to use the CL's. Why should people who haven't paid the fee get access to CL's? It's nothing to do with democracy.

brue replied on 03/08/2021 07:53

Posted on 02/08/2021 18:12 by JVB66

No CL is allowed to take non members to stay as it is breaking the agreement to be able to operate as a CL ,if you do find  it happening , please advise the club because they could be depriving members of the club their right to stayfrown 

Non members staying on club sites are not only expected to follow club rules they also are charged £13.00per night over what the site they are on site charges aresurprised

 

Posted on 03/08/2021 07:53

Am I right in thinking that at present CAMC CL owners can't offer the route to membership and wouldn't this be a good solution to a non member wanting to use a CL?

Fisherman replied on 03/08/2021 09:04

Posted on 03/08/2021 09:04

Its mostly  cash business so rules are only guidelines. Who would turn away a customer on this basis and what are the chances of anyone "catching them out". NIL

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