CL numbers 'up'

It is worth remembering that many C/L's close but reopen as commercial sites!

But how are we told that. We just hear they've closed

Write your comments here...Simples, Google the CL name ! I did this with one of the recent closures and discovered it was now a 15 van commercial site . Still within the original CL site. Kellysmum

A good indication that a closing CL is going commercial is if it has a shower/toilet block. Waste of investment to just pack it in.

Do any long-term members (I've only been a member for 5 years) know how many CL's there were, 10 years ago, 20 years ago etc?   It would be interesting to plot the trend of decline in CL numbers.  

It would be even more interesting to see whether there have been regional issues, or whether those charging higher or lower prices were more likely to leave, but I suspect that data (if available) is buried deep in the bowels of HQ..

CG

I joined in 1987 there were around 5000 then. 

All we know as members is the cl gets closed. No stats to hand as to why. Quite interesting to find out though.

The "New Cl's" section states there were only 49 new cl's over the year to the 1st Sept. Unfortunately we don't know how many closures in the same time, a lot more no doubt 

I am going from memory, so don’t take my figures as gospel but if I do remember correctly when we joined the CC in1999 the Sites Directory boasted Over 3,700 CL's. Again if I am not mistaken current numbers are below 2,500, so we would seem to have lost about 1/3^rd during that period. As user's of CL's only, we can only hope that further increases continue but we won’t be holding our breath.     

CholseyGrange:

Plese see above an earlier post of mine. 

CG

I joined in 1987 there were around 5000 then. 

All we know as members is the cl gets closed. No stats to hand as to why. Quite interesting to find out though.

The "New Cl's" section states there were only 49 new cl's over the year to the 1st Sept. Unfortunately we don't know how many closures in the same time, a lot more no doubt 

 

Harry, I did a check at the beginning of this year re closures last year, and posted the results in a post about CL closures. This is a copy of my posting, hope this helps:-

I've just gone thro' my 2015/16 Site Directory, where I mark off all closures as printed in the Club's magazine. From a total of 2410 CLs listed at publication, up to Dec 2015 I find that there has been 95 closures of which 60 were of sites with EHU. There has also been 65 new CLs introduced into the network. This difference is a lot closer than many seemed to imagine, including myself.

CG

I joined in 1987 there were around 5000 then. 

All we know as members is the cl gets closed. No stats to hand as to why. Quite interesting to find out though.

The "New Cl's" section states there were only 49 new cl's over the year to the 1st Sept. Unfortunately we don't know how many closures in the same time, a lot more no doubt 

 

Harry, I did a check at the beginning of this year re closures last year, and posted the results in a post about CL closures. This is a copy of my posting, hope this helps:-

I've just gone thro' my 2015/16 Site Directory, where I mark off all closures as printed in the Club's magazine. From a total of 2410 CLs listed at publication, up to Dec 2015 I find that there has been 95 closures of which 60 were of sites with EHU. There has also been 65 new CLs introduced into the network. This difference is a lot closer than many seemed to imagine, including myself.

NTH

Very interesting and surprising.

Between 1987/2015 losses = some 2590 over 28years an average of 92.5 per year.

In the year up to Dec 2015 Losses = 30, approx 1/3^rd of the average yearly total between 1987/2015.

But what to make of such figures?  An increase in C/L numbers over any two month period, although welcome would need to be sustained for a very long time to even reverse this negative trend. All we can do is watch and wait in the hope of continued positive results.

However I won’t  be holding my breath.

Thanks for all the feedback on numbers. 

CG 

Are you a representative of CL owners to the CC or a representative of CL users?

Cheers