CL Closed for The Year

harryb replied on 26/06/2020 18:19

Posted on 26/06/2020 18:19

I have just had an email from a cl owner saying sorry but he has to cancel our booking for 7 nights on the 23rd Aug because he has decided not to reopen until next year. He was terribly sorry but had made the decision after studying the Covid 19 secure protocols sent to him by the CMHC on 23rd June.

He didn’t go into details but he was worried about the advice given after studying the implications and requirements should someone have to self-isolate on his site are very worrying.

For someone to be worried enough to make that decision begs the question,  what does this advice imply on club sites?

Have all people going away from the 4th onwards thought of this. I know I hadn’t

replied on 28/06/2020 13:14

Posted on 28/06/2020 12:52 by allanandjean

Hi euror, I am not great at math's but if there are a potential 600000 people with the virus thats less than 1% of the UK population.

If we are to believe what we are told the majority of CLs are not making much money so would agree that they may need to be desperate but, that's probably as much to do with the hassle as the risk of infection..

I cant see it being a big bang change next week but if it goes OK the pace may well accelerate.

Just heard on BBC news that Eurotunnel had there busiest ever booking day yesterday at three times the bookings of the same day last year.

Posted on 28/06/2020 13:14

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Rufs replied on 28/06/2020 13:28

Posted on 28/06/2020 13:28

if the one infected person had been using the on site facilities along with a possible high percentage of others on the site, you can be sure the authorities would isolate the site until such time that everybody had been tested.

I find it unlikely that the authorities would take any such action Ruf

well my logic is that if e.g. you were at a site in a place such as Cornwall, it would make sense to isolate say 200 people on a caravan site rather than have to isolate the whole of Cornwall, which is exactly what they are looking to do in e.g. leicester, lock down a known area of infection rather than Leicester as a whole.

so your logic is ???

as for CL not opening, I am sure they have looked very closely at their business, which may or may not be making a workable profit and when they read such as below from the gov guidance who wouldnt throw in the towel if you are 2 person ownership of a CL

TOURER, MOTORHOME AND TENT USERS
In addition to the foregoing, the person and the group will need to use a designated service point to get water and dispose of grey/black waste. When the person or group plan to use these facilities, they should contact the reception desk by phone to arrange a
specific time to do this. A park representative will need to clean the service point with the appropriate chemicals it can be used again

davetommo replied on 28/06/2020 16:41

Posted on 28/06/2020 10:57 by Rufs

all our petrol stations have notices to the effect that you must wear gloves to use the pump, gloves to be thrown in outside bin and sanitiser used before paying.

I could see a similar regime being implemented on a CL without any great difficulty, on a site with 100+ units, very difficult.  you can implement what you think is the safest regime possible, but, as ET says it does not stop somebody arriving on site that is already infected.

Posted on 28/06/2020 16:41

Just filled up at Morrison’s on Preston docks. Couldn’t see any gloves there. 

replied on 28/06/2020 17:34

Posted on 28/06/2020 13:28 by Rufs

if the one infected person had been using the on site facilities along with a possible high percentage of others on the site, you can be sure the authorities would isolate the site until such time that everybody had been tested.

I find it unlikely that the authorities would take any such action Ruf

well my logic is that if e.g. you were at a site in a place such as Cornwall, it would make sense to isolate say 200 people on a caravan site rather than have to isolate the whole of Cornwall, which is exactly what they are looking to do in e.g. leicester, lock down a known area of infection rather than Leicester as a whole.

so your logic is ???

as for CL not opening, I am sure they have looked very closely at their business, which may or may not be making a workable profit and when they read such as below from the gov guidance who wouldnt throw in the towel if you are 2 person ownership of a CL

TOURER, MOTORHOME AND TENT USERS
In addition to the foregoing, the person and the group will need to use a designated service point to get water and dispose of grey/black waste. When the person or group plan to use these facilities, they should contact the reception desk by phone to arrange a
specific time to do this. A park representative will need to clean the service point with the appropriate chemicals it can be used again

Posted on 28/06/2020 17:34

well my logic is that if e.g. you were at a site in a place such as Cornwall, it would make sense to isolate say 200 people on a caravan site rather than have to isolate the whole of Cornwall, which is exactly what they are looking to do in e.g. leicester, lock down a known area of infection rather than Leicester as a whole.

so your logic is ???

My logic?

Mayor Sir Peter Soulsby said there was "no immediate prospect" of a lockdown.

Ms Patel said she had spoken to Health Secretary Matt Hancock about a possible local lockdown, and said "extra support" would be going into the area.

Leicester South MP and shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth told the BBC's The World This Weekend he felt there was "no suggestion" a lockdown was about to happen.

"I received a briefing from the health secretary yesterday and yes, we have a spike in infections in Leicester and yes, we have to respond to that with extra testing capacity and extra support for the local authority," he said.

"But nobody is proposing a local lockdown in the way in which it appears to have been presented in some of the media today and me and Matt Hancock were at one with that."

Public Health England said it was "concerned" by the increase in cases in the city and urged residents to follow advice on hygiene, social distancing and testing.

It also said any tightening of restrictions locally, while such measures were eased elsewhere, would be "difficult" for the city.

Leicester has seen a number of Covid-19 cases in recent days.

Several schools have been affected. Herrick Primary in Rushey Mead; Moat Community College in Highfields; Whitehall Primary in Rowlatts Hill; and Humberstone Junior and Humberstone Infant academies have all closed for a number of days.

Business has been hit too, with three people testing positive at Sainsbury's supermarket in Melton Road, food manufacturer Samworth Brothers confirming a "handful" of cases at its Beaumont Leys sites and an unconfirmed number at the Pladis factory in South Wigston.

 

So the likelihood of a site being quarantined because of a single person infected is very small. Infinitesimal in fact.

 

Takethedogalong replied on 28/06/2020 19:59

Posted on 28/06/2020 19:59

If thousands of touring outfits can make it home through seriously locked down Spain and France, I am under no illusions that five vans anywhere in UK will get home from a CL. 

brue replied on 28/06/2020 20:04

Posted on 28/06/2020 20:04

It might be that some CL owners are more vulnerable to Covid etc (maybe a family member) so it's quite understandable from several points of view that at present they decide not to open.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 29/06/2020 07:42

Posted on 28/06/2020 16:41 by davetommo

Just filled up at Morrison’s on Preston docks. Couldn’t see any gloves there. 

Posted on 29/06/2020 07:42

Class others PPE responsibility for your safety as a bonus-you should care mainly about you, you know it makes sense👍🏻😊

Rufs replied on 29/06/2020 08:22

Posted on 29/06/2020 08:22

well Easy this is what Ms Patel said yesterday and i heard her laughing

The city of Leicester may be facing a localised lockdown after a rise in coronavirus cases, Home Secretary Priti Patel has confirmed.

Speaking on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show, she said it was "correct" that the government was considering the move, reported in the Sunday Times

 

replied on 29/06/2020 08:24

Posted on 29/06/2020 08:22 by Rufs

well Easy this is what Ms Patel said yesterday and i heard her laughing

The city of Leicester may be facing a localised lockdown after a rise in coronavirus cases, Home Secretary Priti Patel has confirmed.

Speaking on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show, she said it was "correct" that the government was considering the move, reported in the Sunday Times

 

Posted on 29/06/2020 08:24

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replied on 29/06/2020 08:37

Posted on 29/06/2020 08:22 by Rufs

well Easy this is what Ms Patel said yesterday and i heard her laughing

The city of Leicester may be facing a localised lockdown after a rise in coronavirus cases, Home Secretary Priti Patel has confirmed.

Speaking on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show, she said it was "correct" that the government was considering the move, reported in the Sunday Times

 

Posted on 29/06/2020 08:37

I know what Patel said I am also aware that there will be great reluctance to act with a local lockdown although they might delay pub openings in the city but I also doubt that. I expect the usual media hype. 

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