Cancelling a CL booking at short notice.

NicolaW replied on 06/09/2017 21:14

Posted on 06/09/2017 21:14

I recently posted in the last minute availability section about a member cancelling a 25 night booking on my CL two days before he was due to arrive and there has also been a tremendous amount of discussion around this subject in the CL owners group.

With this in mind I’d be interested in what Members who regularly visit CL’s think is the right practice - if and when they have to cancel a confirmed CL booking at short notice - or have to depart early during their stay.  

One award-winning CL has the following policy on their website...

"If a pre-booked stay with us is cancelled at short notice, ( "within 7 days of the pre-booked arrival date" ) or terminated prematurely during your stay without sufficient warning,   before the arranged departure date,  ("for whatever reason" and especially the weather)  we reserve the right to charge the full rate for each night of un-attendance for the pitch, for which we have made a loyal commitment in your name. Also, no refund for the period of un-attendance will be given.   

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE US PLENTY OF NOTICE  IF YOU CAN-NOT, OR DO NOT INTEND TO COME ON YOUR PRE-BOOKED DAY OF ARRIVAL.             

We do not tolerate "No Shows" as they waste our time, and most importantly they deprive our loyal clients from having time with us.     

We make a record of "No Shows" for future booking attempts, who may be asked to pay the full amount at the time of booking, or even declined."

Do CT members feel this is an extreme policy or is it a fair one? 

Is there any established Club policy surrounding last minute cancellations? If not, do you think there should be one developed by the Club?

All comments and view points most welcome! smile

Nicola
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onepjg replied on 13/09/2017 14:45

Posted on 13/09/2017 14:45

If you look at the home page, under UK HOLIDAYS, UK SITES, CERTIFIED LOCATIONS, and scroll down to TOP QUESTIONS you will find this

Do CL's charge booking fees ?

CL owners may request a deposit or booking fee. This could be non-refundable so we recommend that you confirm any booking / payment conditions with the owner directly.

NicolaW replied on 13/09/2017 14:46

Posted on 13/09/2017 14:38 by onepjg

Hi Nicola

As you asked

''Is there any established Club policy surrounding last minute cancellations? If not, do you think there should be one developed by the Club?''

 

and it didn't specify CL's in the question, I presume Tracy123 is just answering it for you. I presume you were asking specifically in relation to CL's.

Posted on 13/09/2017 14:46

Hi onepjg

Yes, specifically CLs as the thread is entitled 'Cancelling a CL booking at short notice' and it's posted in the CL section of CT. wink

Nicola

onepjg replied on 13/09/2017 14:54

Posted on 13/09/2017 14:54

I thought so, but  she did answer the question asked wink.

I must admit when I first read the initial post, I presumed you didn't know the CAMC policy, solely based on that question. I, possibly like many others CAMC users, tend to think of CL and the CAMC as one and the same in many ways, albeit CL's are privately owned.

Takethedogalong replied on 13/09/2017 20:21

Posted on 13/09/2017 20:21

That's one of the big issues onepjg, as you say, a lot of folks think Club Sites and CLs have similar operating policies. Couldn't be further from the truth, and long may they stay almost independent! Club do a reasonable job of assisting with set up, an annual inspection, bit of marketing, but vast percentage of work required is done by CL owners themselves.

Tracy123 replied on 18/09/2017 11:19

Posted on 13/09/2017 14:14 by NicolaW

Thank you Tracy but the Club's cancellation policy has no bearing whatsoever on cancelling a CL at short notice, as has been discussed at great length in this thread. 

A CL owner is free to apply any cancellation policy they wish or indeed no cancellation policy at all if that's how they want to operate their site.

Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
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Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
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Posted on 18/09/2017 11:19

Hi Nicola,

As you state, the Club policy has no bearing on a CL site policy but you asked, "Is there any established Club policy surrounding last minute cancellations? " and this what I was referring to. 

CL sites each have their own policies.

I am sorry my response was not what you were looking for.

Kind Regards

Tracy

Merve replied on 22/09/2017 20:35

Posted on 06/09/2017 21:14 by NicolaW

I recently posted in the last minute availability section about a member cancelling a 25 night booking on my CL two days before he was due to arrive and there has also been a tremendous amount of discussion around this subject in the CL owners group.

With this in mind I’d be interested in what Members who regularly visit CL’s think is the right practice - if and when they have to cancel a confirmed CL booking at short notice - or have to depart early during their stay.  

One award-winning CL has the following policy on their website...

"If a pre-booked stay with us is cancelled at short notice, ( "within 7 days of the pre-booked arrival date" ) or terminated prematurely during your stay without sufficient warning,   before the arranged departure date,  ("for whatever reason" and especially the weather)  we reserve the right to charge the full rate for each night of un-attendance for the pitch, for which we have made a loyal commitment in your name. Also, no refund for the period of un-attendance will be given.   

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE US PLENTY OF NOTICE  IF YOU CAN-NOT, OR DO NOT INTEND TO COME ON YOUR PRE-BOOKED DAY OF ARRIVAL.             

We do not tolerate "No Shows" as they waste our time, and most importantly they deprive our loyal clients from having time with us.     

We make a record of "No Shows" for future booking attempts, who may be asked to pay the full amount at the time of booking, or even declined."

Do CT members feel this is an extreme policy or is it a fair one? 

Is there any established Club policy surrounding last minute cancellations? If not, do you think there should be one developed by the Club?

All comments and view points most welcome! smile

Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 365, page 402 of the 2017/2018 Sites Directory
Read our many wonderful reviews!

Posted on 22/09/2017 20:35

No! CLs are businesses- they have to protect themselves from selfish and thoughtless people. I definitely think the club should sort this out and have rules regarding this behaviour. 

cyberyacht replied on 23/09/2017 08:19

Posted on 23/09/2017 08:19

Perhaps CL owners should have a blacklist. If a previously misbehaving member phones up decline the booking unless payment in full up front. The blacklist could run for say 12 months since previous no-show.

The other alternative is a "name and shame" thread with membership number and name posted on here.

levenlounger replied on 23/09/2017 15:28

Posted on 06/09/2017 21:14 by NicolaW

I recently posted in the last minute availability section about a member cancelling a 25 night booking on my CL two days before he was due to arrive and there has also been a tremendous amount of discussion around this subject in the CL owners group.

With this in mind I’d be interested in what Members who regularly visit CL’s think is the right practice - if and when they have to cancel a confirmed CL booking at short notice - or have to depart early during their stay.  

One award-winning CL has the following policy on their website...

"If a pre-booked stay with us is cancelled at short notice, ( "within 7 days of the pre-booked arrival date" ) or terminated prematurely during your stay without sufficient warning,   before the arranged departure date,  ("for whatever reason" and especially the weather)  we reserve the right to charge the full rate for each night of un-attendance for the pitch, for which we have made a loyal commitment in your name. Also, no refund for the period of un-attendance will be given.   

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE US PLENTY OF NOTICE  IF YOU CAN-NOT, OR DO NOT INTEND TO COME ON YOUR PRE-BOOKED DAY OF ARRIVAL.             

We do not tolerate "No Shows" as they waste our time, and most importantly they deprive our loyal clients from having time with us.     

We make a record of "No Shows" for future booking attempts, who may be asked to pay the full amount at the time of booking, or even declined."

Do CT members feel this is an extreme policy or is it a fair one? 

Is there any established Club policy surrounding last minute cancellations? If not, do you think there should be one developed by the Club?

All comments and view points most welcome! smile

Nicola
www.skybarnfarm.co.uk
Telephone: 01522 681218
Email: enquiries@skybarnfarm.co.uk
Site 365, page 402 of the 2017/2018 Sites Directory
Read our many wonderful reviews!

Posted on 23/09/2017 15:28

I have a different point of view on this. What about when you turn up at a CL which you have booked by telephone a few weeks  previously to discover that the owner denies all knowledge of the booking. He hadn't taken any details when I booked (reg no  phone) and there were already 5 outfits on the site! We had to pitch up right in front of the chemical disposal point. The owner wasn't unpleasant, but seemed dubious that I had booked. He said it would probably be OK to have 6 outfits  - there were no marked out pitches, just a grassy site. I had booked two nights but we left after one - paid for one night . We were a bit upset and disappointed as we had visited this site a few years previously and loved it.

Tinwheeler replied on 23/09/2017 15:59

Posted on 23/09/2017 15:28 by levenlounger

I have a different point of view on this. What about when you turn up at a CL which you have booked by telephone a few weeks  previously to discover that the owner denies all knowledge of the booking. He hadn't taken any details when I booked (reg no  phone) and there were already 5 outfits on the site! We had to pitch up right in front of the chemical disposal point. The owner wasn't unpleasant, but seemed dubious that I had booked. He said it would probably be OK to have 6 outfits  - there were no marked out pitches, just a grassy site. I had booked two nights but we left after one - paid for one night . We were a bit upset and disappointed as we had visited this site a few years previously and loved it.

Posted on 23/09/2017 15:59

In that instance you should contact the club and explain the unprofessional behaviour of the CL owner which resulted in a breach of the exemption regs.

Had a deposit been taken, you would have had proof of your booking. Your experience makes a good case for having a formal procedure in place.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/09/2017 18:48

Posted on 23/09/2017 18:48

It is a two way process, agreed. Some CL owners have a very relaxed booking procedure, no doubt, but we always make sure they have our dates, telephone number, and know details of our party, e.g. Two adults and two dogs. Owners do have a CMC book issued to log bookings, so you were very unlucky levenlounger. Something to mention in a review of site perhaps?

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