Posted on 15/03/2022 13:35
I have been on a number sites where electric vehicles have been charging via the site supply. This must stop as fuel at forecourts is now reaching £2 per litre, am I and others to subsidies this act. Cost at sites will need rise with the cost of living so please by all means get some company to to put in charging stations for this use and stop this ASAP.
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Posted on 18/03/2022 09:04 by Twos more then oneThey will when on site ,it is not an uncommon site
An easy answer would be to charge extra for those who are on site with a EV vehicle
Posted on 18/03/2022 09:28
What you don't know is whether they charge off site at faster public charge points as a norm and only top up on site when all else fails.
They are charged a fee to charge batteries on site. It would be grossly unfair to levy that fee simply because someone drives an EV.
I have no axe to grind here but am trying to see the situation from both sides. I don't think the present arrangement is unfair to anyone or that one person subsidises another.
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Posted on 18/03/2022 09:28 by TinwheelerWhat you don't know is whether they charge off site at faster public charge points as a norm and only top up on site when all else fails.
They are charged a fee to charge batteries on site. It would be grossly unfair to levy that fee simply because someone drives an EV.
I have no axe to grind here but am trying to see the situation from both sides. I don't think the present arrangement is unfair to anyone or that one person subsidises another.
Posted on 18/03/2022 07:24 by Twos more then oneIt is wrong to expect other site uses, and those that own conventional fuelled vehicles to subsidise the owners of EV vehicles , EV users do not subsides those that use conventional fuelled vehicles
It is a one sided , dare i say selfish argument, that does not stand scrutiny
Posted on 18/03/2022 09:44
No one subsides anyone else's use of electricity on site.
Everyone is given a set amount on site to do with as they wish. The price and amount is set by the club and the 'contract' is with the club, the club pays the electricity you use, not the pitch next to you, and neither are you subsiding that pitch or anyone else's. What you drive on site has no bearing to those prices
It is the same as any all inclusive meal or holiday. The price for those are set you accept them and then enjoy, Or do you personally look to the next table/pool side bar and think as they are eating or drinking more than you are that you are subsiding them in some way? I certainly don't.
Of course the good news is that you too can avail yourself of this 'perk' as well. Just buy an EV.
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Posted on 18/03/2022 08:47 by TinwheelerYou forget that charging an EV is via the caravan and the 16A supply is all that is available. Person A might use the supply to charge an EV while person B might use the same amount to run heating, air con, electric grill etc etc. What's the difference? Thete's only so much you can do with 16A whether it be car charging or running other appliances.
This will not be a permanent state of affairs as separate car charging points will appear over time.
As an aside, the slow trickle charge provided by a 'normal' supply is only recommended for emergency use when charging an EV as long term use can cause battery damage. Therefore, it is unlikely that EV owners will constantly charge in this manner.
Posted on 18/03/2022 09:42 by Rocky 2 bucketsSurely C&MC have costed before deciding to allow EV charging👍🏻. In which case it must be acceptable. I’m with you TW I’m part of the solution not the problem🙂
Posted on 18/03/2022 09:48 by Cornersteadywhat I was going to say +1
Posted on 18/03/2022 10:03 by eurortravellerI was reading about a site on the Isle of Wight which only charges £12 a night. Why so cheap? The EHU bollards at each pitch are metered. Visitors can charge batteries and heat awnings to their heart’s content. And pay for what they use.
Posted on 18/03/2022 09:28 by TinwheelerWhat you don't know is whether they charge off site at faster public charge points as a norm and only top up on site when all else fails.
They are charged a fee to charge batteries on site. It would be grossly unfair to levy that fee simply because someone drives an EV.
I have no axe to grind here but am trying to see the situation from both sides. I don't think the present arrangement is unfair to anyone or that one person subsidises another.
Posted on 18/03/2022 10:52
With our EV if we did a fast partial charge (50%) at a paid for charge point it would cost around £3.45. Most EV type cars would not run batteries down to zero and part charging is the norm. We would not be able to do a similar fast charge on a CAMC bollard which is just a 16 amp plug in via the van with a reduction in usage of the already inc electricity fee, in fact the cable would probably start to heat up if left on for long. It's an unsatisfactory situation and as before I'd recommend the C&CC where there are no extra fees.
CAMC EVs are charged £9. Hybrids etc are charged £2, obviously there is a difference in power draw but all users will lose power to their vans in the process. None of us can draw more than the 16amp supply.
It's possible to look up charging costs both at home and at charge points for all EVs and Hybrids, some cost more to charge some less. Try Zap maps for all the details, which are very useful for anyone considering any type of EV.
Energy prices will certainly be going up and we'll all be paying for that whatever our circumstances. I'm all for conserving energy usage, I don't like to see waste. But I would also like to see some sort of encouraging steps towards EV usage from CAMC. At present it's minimal and discouraging.
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