Fuel and electric car charging

mackilt replied on 15/03/2022 13:35

Posted on 15/03/2022 13:35

I have been on a number sites where electric vehicles have been charging via the site supply. This must stop as fuel at forecourts is now reaching £2 per litre, am I and others to subsidies this act. Cost at sites will need rise with the cost of living so please by all means get some company to to put in charging stations for this use and stop this ASAP.  

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cyberyacht replied on 17/03/2022 09:03

Posted on 17/03/2022 09:03

SB wrote "I asked him how his LPG supplies were going, which was OK till someone called in and asked for a refill then, when payment was being taken, returned to their car on the pretence of getting their wallet, and drove off."

Hopefully he was able to pass the vehicle reg to the police for theft.

Navigateur replied on 17/03/2022 09:14

Posted on 17/03/2022 09:14

The way prices are going the fine for leaving without paying for a tank of fuel is less than the cost of the fuel . . . !

SeasideBill replied on 17/03/2022 09:52

Posted on 17/03/2022 09:14 by Navigateur

The way prices are going the fine for leaving without paying for a tank of fuel is less than the cost of the fuel . . . !

Posted on 17/03/2022 09:52

Yes, good point. Wouldn’t be surprised to see pre-payment introduced in some areas.

Oscarmax replied on 17/03/2022 12:48

Posted on 17/03/2022 12:48

We tow with a Outlander PHEV we always inform the wardens and pay the £2.00 for charging up per day, a full charge take approximately 10 kWh, however on most occasions nearer the 4 -6 kWh.

We do expect the daily charge to rise to £3.00 in the near future, however when we do plug in the caravans external socket we draw 10 amps of electric, leaving us only 6 amps. For the last 2 year we have not had to switch the Sargent charger on, our 2 solar panel and MPPT controller to charge our batteries.

Our modern caravan is  well insulated and all our lighting LED.

Twos more then one replied on 18/03/2022 07:24

Posted on 18/03/2022 07:24

It is wrong to expect other site uses, and those that own conventional fuelled vehicles  to subsidise the owners of EV  vehicles , EV users do not subsides those that  use conventional fuelled vehicles 
It is a one sided , dare i say selfish argument, that does not stand scrutiny

replied on 18/03/2022 07:43

Posted on 17/03/2022 09:52 by SeasideBill

Yes, good point. Wouldn’t be surprised to see pre-payment introduced in some areas.

Posted on 18/03/2022 07:43

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JVB66 replied on 18/03/2022 07:53

Posted on 18/03/2022 07:24 by Twos more then one

It is wrong to expect other site uses, and those that own conventional fuelled vehicles  to subsidise the owners of EV  vehicles , EV users do not subsides those that  use conventional fuelled vehicles 
It is a one sided , dare i say selfish argument, that does not stand scrutiny

Posted on 18/03/2022 07:53

I do not think it is expected that other site user subsidised EV charging ,?but when it come to advising the site staff that "can I pay the add charge as I am charging my EV today" that is where honesty. and saving money can collidesurprised

Especiallyl when it has been noted that some may take advantage of the vacant hookup on a bollard undecided

Twos more then one replied on 18/03/2022 08:24

Posted on 18/03/2022 07:53 by JVB66

I do not think it is expected that other site user subsidised EV charging ,?but when it come to advising the site staff that "can I pay the add charge as I am charging my EV today" that is where honesty. and saving money can collidesurprised

Especiallyl when it has been noted that some may take advantage of the vacant hookup on a bollard undecided

Posted on 18/03/2022 08:24

Site charges will include average usage of electricity.  Charging EVs will increase that average usage, so it will then be passed on by increased site fees , on all those that book a pitch which includes electric 
Expected or not, that mean all owners of non EV vehicle are subsiding EV vehicle owners 

Tinwheeler replied on 18/03/2022 08:47

Posted on 18/03/2022 08:24 by Twos more then one

Site charges will include average usage of electricity.  Charging EVs will increase that average usage, so it will then be passed on by increased site fees , on all those that book a pitch which includes electric 
Expected or not, that mean all owners of non EV vehicle are subsiding EV vehicle owners 

Posted on 18/03/2022 08:47

You forget that charging an EV is via the caravan and the 16A supply is all that is available. Person A might use the supply to charge an EV while person B might use the same amount to run heating, air con, electric grill etc etc. What's the difference? Thete's only so much you can do with 16A whether it be car charging or running other appliances.

This will not be a permanent state of affairs as separate car charging points will appear over time.

As an aside, the slow trickle charge provided by a 'normal' supply is only recommended for emergency use when charging an EV as long term use can cause battery damage. Therefore, it is unlikely that EV owners will constantly charge in this manner.

 

Twos more then one replied on 18/03/2022 09:04

Posted on 18/03/2022 09:04

They will when on site ,it is not an uncommon site 
An easy answer would be to charge extra  for those who are on site with a  EV vehicle

 

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