Supermarket fuel

crannman replied on 21/12/2015 15:29

Posted on 21/12/2015 15:29

so car been playing up went into limp mode nothing showing on dash took it into garage pluged into the gizmos ......nothing two days later down on power again nothing .....car is a octavia 2010 allways serviced at skoda garage talking to AA patrol man that lives near me he said over last few month been to alot of cars with similar problems he asked me where do i fuel up .....morrisons 'Adsa i said . try a shell or esso garage AA man told me .so i have problem solved anyone else had the same problems

 

ChemicalJasper replied on 20/04/2016 19:15

Posted on 20/04/2016 19:15

.it had nothing to do with dirty fuel it was the fact that Huyndi/Kia 1.7 diesel filters could not handle waxing in low temperatures and a housing with a heater had to be fitted, cost cutting for the UK market.

Does diesel wax anymore? I've had a few diseasals over the past few years & never had any problems, even over the winter a few years ago when it stayed at minus brass monkies for weeks.

Funnily enough wev are next taking out the MDFI tank, I was not aware of the nature of this additive until today , but this is a cold filter plugging prevention (CFPP) additive for winter spec fuel and we have now changed to summer spec. That might help with your comments above.

petertr replied on 20/04/2016 21:11

Posted on 20/04/2016 21:11

no supermarket fuel for me i have seen what it can do only  b/p  or  shell bassett.

Don't cry ACTUALLY, no, no you have not! - neither bp nor Shell manufacture fuel in the UK. Those stations buy the same fuel as the supermarkets from the local refinery or depot!

There are only 7 such places in the entire country.  The north of england and all of scotland use the exact same one!

The raw material is identical.  The quality of the storage tanks, pipes and any additives are what can vary.

Colin51 replied on 21/04/2016 08:15

Posted on 21/04/2016 08:15

.it had nothing to do with dirty fuel it was the fact that Huyndi/Kia 1.7 diesel filters could not handle waxing in low temperatures and a housing with a heater had to be fitted, cost cutting for the UK market.

Does diesel wax anymore? I've had a few diseasals over the past few years & never had any problems, even over the winter a few years ago when it stayed at minus brass monkies for weeks.

Funnily enough wev are next taking out the MDFI tank, I was not aware of the nature of this additive until today , but this is a cold filter plugging prevention (CFPP) additive for winter spec fuel and we have now changed to summer spec. That might help with your comments above.

The explanation from Kia was the winter of 13/14 was mild and your CFPP additive was only added to the fuel below +7C. So the problem was two fold the fuel company cost cutting and a Kia designe fault.

ChemicalJasper replied on 21/04/2016 09:13

Posted on 21/04/2016 09:13

 

The explanation from Kia was the winter of 13/14 was mild and your CFPP additive was only added to the fuel below +7C. So the problem was two fold the fuel company cost cutting and a Kia designe fault.

I can only say we have set change dates from winter to summer and back and as far as I know this completely independent of temperature - what other refineries do, I could not say.

...but if I was Kia....Wink

sailorgirl2 replied on 21/04/2016 20:51

Posted on 21/04/2016 20:51

Hi sailorgirl, well we currently only have one consumer diesel tank and all the diesel, whether it is going to supermarkets or the brands gets loaded into road tankers from that tank, so the basic fuel is IDENTICAL!.  Only if you buy the upgraded version, will you be getting a brand specific additive. All BS EN 590 diesel is low sulphur, and has been for many years. Lubricity chemicals are added during blending and the lubricity of low sulphur fuel is higher than the old high sulphur fuel.

If he loaded from the wrong rack, it may be that it had brand additives... but certainly not lower quality.

(Also turbos don't have injectors, as far as I am aware) 

Write your comments here...cj I am a blonde female maybe I was told a porkie but they stripped down  the fuel system and engine bits that relied on fuel, I know turbo came into the conversation and also  the word injector  however the  car never really  recoverd but the replacement Company car I had which was another Vauxhall Cavalier  was fantastic, so mine might have been the Friday afternoon one...SG2....

Heethers replied on 22/04/2016 13:31

Posted on 22/04/2016 13:31

I love this post, having  had problems with a blocked diesel filter  the dealer will roll out the supermarket fuel excuse not the fact the filter housing needed to be changed under warranty and try to charge you £80 to change the filter.

Rearly used supermarket fuel because the Esso filling station is just around the corner from me, and the ten mile round trip to the nearest supermarket filling station is not worth the effort

Write your comments here...

Heethers replied on 22/04/2016 13:35

Posted on 22/04/2016 13:35

Jasper stated that shell don't produce fuel in the UK, my post was l don't use super market fuel but use shell and once a month fill up with v power. Couldn't careless where its refined, l just know l had poblems using supermarket fuel,  like a few others l know

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