Supermarket fuel

crannman replied on 21/12/2015 15:29

Posted on 21/12/2015 15:29

so car been playing up went into limp mode nothing showing on dash took it into garage pluged into the gizmos ......nothing two days later down on power again nothing .....car is a octavia 2010 allways serviced at skoda garage talking to AA patrol man that lives near me he said over last few month been to alot of cars with similar problems he asked me where do i fuel up .....morrisons 'Adsa i said . try a shell or esso garage AA man told me .so i have problem solved anyone else had the same problems

 

Colin51 replied on 19/04/2016 13:24

Posted on 19/04/2016 13:24

I love this post, having  had problems with a blocked diesel filter  the dealer will roll out the supermarket fuel excuse not the fact the filter housing needed to be changed under warranty and try to charge you £80 to change the filter.

Rearly used supermarket fuel because the Esso filling station is just around the corner from me, and the ten mile round trip to the nearest supermarket filling station is not worth the effort

Tigi replied on 19/04/2016 20:32

Posted on 19/04/2016 20:32

BP have a new version of Ultimate on the forecourt, their claim is an extra 21 miles per tank (based on about 520` per diesel and 390`per petrol car). With an older car you have to fill with Ultimate for 6200` before you might achieve the cleaning to obtain the extra mileage. The article is in the Daily Telegraph Car Section and the figures are from memory. 

Wildwood replied on 19/04/2016 21:12

Posted on 19/04/2016 21:12

I love this post, having  had problems with a blocked diesel filter  the dealer will roll out the supermarket fuel excuse not the fact the filter housing needed to be changed under warranty and try to charge you £80 to change the filter.

Rearly used supermarket fuel because the Esso filling station is just around the corner from me, and the ten mile round trip to the nearest supermarket filling station is not worth the effort

As all brands get their fuel from the same refineries dirt in the fuel should not be related to any particular brand. To me any dirt has to either be from the tanker or the filling station tanks which would be due to the drivers and managers standards or lack of them.

ChemicalJasper replied on 19/04/2016 21:50

Posted on 19/04/2016 21:50

I've had them vacuuming the floor of one of the "Bio"tanks today, to make sure it was clean before it was returned to service.....they did it with a Henry Hoover of all things!Surprised

sailorgirl2 replied on 19/04/2016 22:09

Posted on 19/04/2016 22:09

I've had them vacuuming the floor of one of the "Bio"tanks today, to make sure it was clean before it was returned to service.....they did it with a Henry Hoover of all things!Surprised

Write your comments here...I always used supermarket fuel in a Vauxhall Cavalier and had these loss of power moments regularly.I had new turbo injectors, and Vauxhall had the car back and in the end it was a fault on a circuit board in one of the on board computers they claimed Damned annoying when towing on my own during the night to be kept at 20mph and no further power available.. During the  months of hassle I spoke to a colleague who was a tanker driver at Kingsbury  depot and he told me to avoid supermarket fuel it was a different standard.He knew this because one day he accidentally filled his tanker for a supermarket from the incorrect tank on site and had to have the tank emptied and flushed as they couldnot deliver because it was a different quality.There was also a programme with Ed Doolan on WM Radio which featured this issue for many weeks.The argument was never solved but there seemed to be  more difficulties with supermarket fuel than those that had used named garages....I after all my issues started again one day when I was caught short on fuel and had to use a supermarket brand and guess what, all the loss of power came back.....I then changed my car........The Xtrail is far better and I use branded petrol garages. Incidentally I always had a better miles /gallon ratio on branded fuel than on supermarket fuel, I was told it was due to Sulphur content, how true I do not know?  SG2

ChemicalJasper replied on 19/04/2016 22:27

Posted on 19/04/2016 22:27

Hi sailorgirl, well we currently only have one consumer diesel tank and all the diesel, whether it is going to supermarkets or the brands gets loaded into road tankers from that tank, so the basic fuel is IDENTICAL!.  Only if you buy the upgraded version, will you be getting a brand specific additive. All BS EN 590 diesel is low sulphur, and has been for many years. Lubricity chemicals are added during blending and the lubricity of low sulphur fuel is higher than the old high sulphur fuel.

If he loaded from the wrong rack, it may be that it had brand additives... but certainly not lower quality.

(Also turbos don't have injectors, as far as I am aware) 

EmilysDad replied on 19/04/2016 23:35

Posted on 19/04/2016 23:35

 

.I always used supermarket fuel in a Vauxhall Cavalier and had these loss of power moments regularly.I had new turbo injectors, and Vauxhall had the car back and in the end it was a fault on a circuit board in one of the on board computers they claimed  ...

I think that the dealer you used was diagnosing by replacement ....

I've had a string of Vauxhalls, all were filled with supermarket fuel as are my Smart & diseasal Merc and SWMBO's Shitroen ... Ah! maybe the Shitroen isn't perhaps a good example ..... Surprised

xtrailman replied on 20/04/2016 07:06

Posted on 20/04/2016 07:06

I've had a Cavalier for 4.5 years, and two xtrails last one with a DPF both over 9 years and had zero problems with supermarket fuel.

Supermarket fuel is a easy target for all manner of people to blame for other problems, i only do 7K miles a year so mainly short runs, yet never had a issue on cheap fuel.

Colin51 replied on 20/04/2016 08:37

Posted on 20/04/2016 08:37

I love this post, having  had problems with a blocked diesel filter  the dealer will roll out the supermarket fuel excuse not the fact the filter housing needed to be changed under warranty and try to charge you £80 to change the filter.

Rearly used supermarket fuel because the Esso filling station is just around the corner from me, and the ten mile round trip to the nearest supermarket filling station is not worth the effort

As all brands get their fuel from the same refineries dirt in the fuel should not be related to any particular brand. To me any dirt has to either be from the tanker or the filling station tanks which would be due to the drivers and managers standards or lack of th

it had nothing to do with dirty fuel it was the fact that Huyndi/Kia 1.7 diesel filters could not handle waxing in low temperatures and a housing with a heater had to be fitted, cost cutting for the UK market.

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