Diesel & petrol alternatives? Your thoughts please

KellyHenderson replied on 14/09/2017 14:26

KellyHenderson

Posted on 14/09/2017 14:26

Good Afternoon,

Hopefully you have now received your September Club Magazine and read the Ask Your Club article (see attached photo) regarding the future of caravanning post 2040.

Have you already changed your vehicle from diesel to petrol?

Is anyone already towing with a hybrid? Maybe a Tesla Model X?

Has the news affected your plans for your next towcar?

It will also be interesting to see how motorhomes evolve into hybrids and/or electric models, which alternative to diesel would you prefer to buy; Hybrid or electric?

Are you concerned about so few alternatives to diesel at the moment? Would you choose petrol instead if they were more widely available? There is now a VW T6 camper with a petrol engine available.

Has this news made you think about switching to a car and caravan? Equally would caravanners consider trading in their car and caravan to purchase a hybrid or electric motorhome?

From the questions above, we would love to have your feedback.

One thing is for sure, there will be some interesting times ahead.

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ChocolateTrees replied on 01/09/2021 12:29

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Posted on 01/09/2021 11:53 by JVB66

Nice to know you have the space at your property to be able to do all that, what about the millions do do not

Posted on 01/09/2021 12:29

Yes, I am fortunate to have space. The question that was asked was on the presumption of parking lots of cars at one house, not on the orthogonal but also entirely valid issue of not having home charging available.

I was pointing out that _if_ you have home charging available, it is possible to charge multiple cars for serval hundreds of miles range per week, without stressing the local infrastructure to the tune or 64A or more per house, but that perhaps even 16A per house is sufficient (the equivalent of running the oven or immersion heater).

If you don't have off road parking for a car, that does not preclude home charging, but makes it more challenging, and if you cant charge outside your home at all (live in flat, have shared on street parking only, other issues) then its harder still, but some people do it today, perhaps though charging at work or public charging only. Situations vary.

The new crop of 800v based cars _can_ charge 10 to 80% in 15 to 20 mins. That's 150 to 200 miles in a Kia EV6 or Hyundai Ioniq 5, which would make public only charging entirely feasible for many (but not everybody).

EmilysDad replied on 01/09/2021 12:38

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Posted on 01/09/2021 11:45 by Cornersteady

And is that against guidelines ED? And just because you have an issue with 'sir' and classrooms, or how people post, does that mean you can make personal attacks to discredit what people are saying with a reference to their jobs? Why not post just with a rational counter point?

Nice to know you're thinking about me though?

Posted on 01/09/2021 12:38

It was Rocky2buckets that brought your name into the "debate" .... not me. I don't have an issue with "sir" or classrooms but have had no need for either for over 40 years. (Other than the "Sir" I saluted)

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Posted on 01/09/2021 12:47

Presently in many rural areas charging facilities outside the home are limited.

Cornersteady replied on 01/09/2021 12:57

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Posted on 01/09/2021 12:38 by EmilysDad

It was Rocky2buckets that brought your name into the "debate" .... not me. I don't have an issue with "sir" or classrooms but have had no need for either for over 40 years. (Other than the "Sir" I saluted)

Posted on 01/09/2021 12:57

and you replied about me ED no going back over writing that, but I really quite touched I'm in your thoughts so much

Just one sir you saluted to, you must have had high a higher rank than I thought!

JVB66 replied on 01/09/2021 13:02

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Posted on 01/09/2021 12:29 by ChocolateTrees

Yes, I am fortunate to have space. The question that was asked was on the presumption of parking lots of cars at one house, not on the orthogonal but also entirely valid issue of not having home charging available.

I was pointing out that _if_ you have home charging available, it is possible to charge multiple cars for serval hundreds of miles range per week, without stressing the local infrastructure to the tune or 64A or more per house, but that perhaps even 16A per house is sufficient (the equivalent of running the oven or immersion heater).

If you don't have off road parking for a car, that does not preclude home charging, but makes it more challenging, and if you cant charge outside your home at all (live in flat, have shared on street parking only, other issues) then its harder still, but some people do it today, perhaps though charging at work or public charging only. Situations vary.

The new crop of 800v based cars _can_ charge 10 to 80% in 15 to 20 mins. That's 150 to 200 miles in a Kia EV6 or Hyundai Ioniq 5, which would make public only charging entirely feasible for many (but not everybody).

Posted on 01/09/2021 13:02

Are you in a marketing type of work ? because that is the way your posts come over, instead of a real world scenario. That many of us live in,,

In ours and many others in the country, to be able to get near to our house to park would be a miracle in itself, ,we are very lucky as we have a garage at the end of our garden(rented)that I could use

Being retired when neighbours and their offspring who are still at home because off the cost of properties In our area (one property has five vehicles including works vans ,have vacated the road then I could park and charge an LV as long as the LA were not adverse to cables running over public footpaths

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Tinwheeler replied on 01/09/2021 13:09

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Posted on 01/09/2021 13:02 by JVB66

Are you in a marketing type of work ? because that is the way your posts come over, instead of a real world scenario. That many of us live in,

Posted on 01/09/2021 13:09

I think Choc Trees writes a lot of sense. He’s clearly very knowledgeable and more in the 'real world' than a lot of us. Personally, I respect his views and input here.

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replied on 01/09/2021 13:16

Posted on 01/09/2021 13:02 by JVB66

Are you in a marketing type of work ? because that is the way your posts come over, instead of a real world scenario. That many of us live in,

Posted on 01/09/2021 13:16

Zap Map shows one option near to me. The infrastructure is far from ready for full electric and particularly on a tow vehicle. As a run-around car it would be nonstarter for me - pun not intended. We use a 21 year old Yaris for that and will replace with a three or four year one when the time comes or similar.

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Cornersteady replied on 01/09/2021 13:17

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Posted on 01/09/2021 13:09 by Tinwheeler

I think Choc Trees writes a lot of sense. He’s clearly very knowledgeable and more in the 'real world' than a lot of us. Personally, I respect his views and input here.

Posted on 01/09/2021 13:17

JVB66 replied on 01/09/2021 13:19

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Posted on 01/09/2021 13:09 by Tinwheeler

I think Choc Trees writes a lot of sense. He’s clearly very knowledgeable and more in the 'real world' than a lot of us. Personally, I respect his views and input here.

Posted on 01/09/2021 13:19

Editing.of my post does not help the cause

ChocolateTrees replied on 01/09/2021 13:28

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Posted on 01/09/2021 13:02 by JVB66

Are you in a marketing type of work ? because that is the way your posts come over, instead of a real world scenario. That many of us live in,

Posted on 01/09/2021 13:28

No, I am in technical engineering in the computer networking industry. In my work life I think of myself as a problem solver and pioneer of new technology. Finding solutions and relaying positive outcomes is my job. That undoubtedly spills over here (just as it does everywhere else in my life)

My posts are all based on personal experience or referenceable material on line. I am pretty sure I live in the same real world as everybody on the forum, though our individual circumstances and view will be different.

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