Breakaway cable length

jennyc replied on 30/08/2016 09:37

Posted on 30/08/2016 09:37

Following a protracted discussion on Alko breakaway cable attachment directly to the towbar (current best practice) or to the towball (on older towbars) we learned that a stronger caribina was required for direct towbar connection. During the discussion we learned that, as a result, orders for the direct fixing cable were increased. We also learned that the direct fixing point should be within 10cm of the tow ball centre. However, Alko's direct fixing cable is the same length as the tow ball loop type, which means that it'll possibly sag onto the road, making it necessary to shorten it - How should this be achieved? Have the CC advised Alko of this anomaly in their product?

EmilysDad replied on 30/08/2016 21:44

Posted on 30/08/2016 21:44

 ...

Actually that's not true. Alko make the cable for their chassis and hitch, so that will be the same for everyone, then we learn that the regulation for the attachment point is within 10cm of the ball, which is the same for everyone. So there's no question of too long for some, too short for another.

It might be that not everyone has a regulation attachment point ..... Innocent . it could even be a new(ish) caravan on the back of a pre 97 car with a none type approved towbar Cool

jennyc replied on 31/08/2016 07:22

Posted on 31/08/2016 07:22

On my Lunar (which is an Alko chassis/hitch) there is a hole in the end of the chassis rails (where the hitch head attaches) through which the cable passed.This keeps the cable off the floor.

The cable is fairly rigid and with van attached, both the original and replacement cable appears a little too long for my set-up (Witter fixed towbar with connection hole immediately behind the tow ball)

I have not done anything with this cable but on the previous van I made a small loop in the cable close to the hand-brake attachment and held it in place with a couple of very light weight cable ties. Engineer never commented on it when servicing the van.

Write your comments here...

Weve looped ours near the handbrake attachment too. Except we used tape not cable ties to hold it. It seems like a bit of a bodge to me when Alko should be making the cable shorter.

jennyc replied on 31/08/2016 07:25

Posted on 31/08/2016 07:25

 ...

Actually that's not true. Alko make the cable for their chassis and hitch, so that will be the same for everyone, then we learn that the regulation for the attachment point is within 10cm of the ball, which is the same for everyone. So there's no question of too long for some, too short for another.

It might be that not everyone has a regulation attachment point ..... Innocent . it could even be a new(ish) caravan on the back of a pre 97 car with a none type approved towbar Cool

Write your comments here...

People with older tow bars need to use the alternative cable with a weaker clip, and loop it around the towball. It's the later tow bar spec with direct connection that I'm posting about.

Fysherman replied on 31/08/2016 08:02

Posted on 31/08/2016 08:02

Sounds like I should be looking at the stronger clip for my tow bar (it has a hole for a clip) but I am struggling to work up any great enthusiasm to replace the existing one 

jennyc replied on 31/08/2016 08:34

Posted on 31/08/2016 08:34

Sounds like I should be looking at the stronger clip for my tow bar (it has a hole for a clip) but I am struggling to work up any great enthusiasm to replace the existing one 

Write your comments here...

I sympathise. There was a very active thread, culminating with "ask an expert" on the whole subject recently. The conclusion was that direct fixing required a stronger clip. As the correct cable only cost us about £6, my OH bought and fitted the "best practice" one. It took less than 10 mins to fit, the biggest part of the job being to close the hook at one end into a loop. As caravan breakaways are rare, but perhaps life threatening when they do occur, we decided to lash out the £6 for a replacement. In reality I think that you'd be very unlucky to have a breakaway and a cable failure and a fatality. But how would you feel if such a tragedy occurred and you might have done more to prevent it?

EmilysDad replied on 31/08/2016 08:39

Posted on 31/08/2016 08:39

 ..... It's the later tow bar spec with direct connection that I'm posting about.

I know what you're talking about, but there's nothing to stop you clipping your newer caravan to your older towcar using one of these http://www.towsure.com/towbar-breakaway-cable-bracket I made my own & rightly or wrongly clipped directly to my car ..... I never liked the idea of looping the cable over the towball - just seems half baked to me.

Ask ALKO to make you a special short(er) one ..... they might catch on Cool

jennyc replied on 31/08/2016 08:53

Posted on 31/08/2016 08:53

 ..... It's the later tow bar spec with direct connection that I'm posting about.

I know what you're talking about, but there's nothing to stop you clipping your newer caravan to your older towcar using one of these http://www.towsure.com/towbar-breakaway-cable-bracket I made my own & rightly or wrongly clipped directly to my car ..... I never liked the idea of looping the cable over the towball - just seems half baked to me.

Ask ALKO to make you a special short(er) one ..... they might catch on Cool

Write your comments here...

That was an interesting link to Towsure who, clearly and I believe incorrectly, print that it is now "illegal" to loop around the tow ball. However if you fitted their bracket you, like us, would need a shorter cable. I think I'll write to Alko because I think that everyone with a purpose built attachment point on a current tow bar needs a shorter cable.

Fysherman replied on 31/08/2016 09:08

Posted on 31/08/2016 09:08

Sounds like I should be looking at the stronger clip for my tow bar (it has a hole for a clip) but I am struggling to work up any great enthusiasm to replace the existing one 

Write your comments here...

I sympathise. There was a very active thread, culminating with "ask an expert" on the whole subject recently. The conclusion was that direct fixing required a stronger clip. As the correct cable only cost us about £6, my OH bought and fitted the "best practice" one. It took less than 10 mins to fit, the biggest part of the job being to close the hook at one end into a loop. As caravan breakaways are rare, but perhaps life threatening when they do occur, we decided to lash out the £6 for a replacement. In reality I think that you'd be very unlucky to have a breakaway and a cable failure and a fatality. But how would you feel if such a tragedy occurred and you might have done more to prevent it?

Do you have to bend the clip jenny? I wonder if that weakens it defeating the object. Certainly the mountain type carabineer has to pass various stress tests and if bent has to be thrown away. 

Seems alko have made about as good a job with all this as they have with their spare wheel carrier 

jennyc replied on 31/08/2016 09:25

Posted on 31/08/2016 09:25

 

Do you have to bend the clip jenny? I wonder if that weakens it defeating the object. Certainly the mountain type carabineer has to pass various stress tests and if bent has to be thrown away. 

Seems alko have made about as good a job with all this as they have with their spare wheel carrier 

Write your comments here...

Its not the caribina which needs bending, it's the other end where it attaches to the bottom of the handbrake. It's sold with a hook shaped end made from hard steel. If it isn't closed it is likely to fall off the large, heavy duty, key ring style of coupling with the handbrake, which was part of the van when supplied new.

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook