E&P Hydraulic Levelling

richardandros replied on 14/05/2020 06:25

Posted on 14/05/2020 06:25

I have recently paid a deposit to have the E&P system fitted to our Knaus as soon as the lockdown permits and whilst I recognise I am talking to a limited audience, I was wondering if anyone could advise whether, in their experience, it was worth paying the extra £1000 or so to have the full system fitted as opposed to the 'compact' system which just levels side to side.

I have been using Lock 'n Level both to level the van and fit the twin wheel locks for over 6 years now - and have been pleased with it.  However, a recent knee injury has meant that it is extremely painful to kneel down and deploy the L 'n L and fit the wheel locks. The E&P system will permit me to do this much more easily.

I am just wondering if I go for the compact system, whether or not I will regret not having the full system fitted since it's not possible to 'extend' the system if I change my mind at a later date.

I'd be particularly interested to hear from anyone who 'just' has the compact version fitted and what their experience is.

Thanks - Richard

 

BrianJosie replied on 18/05/2020 08:34

Posted on 18/05/2020 08:34

Hi there does anyone know the rough cost of fitted the E&P full system to a single axle caravan please? .

Brian & Jo

lornalou1 replied on 18/05/2020 11:30

Posted on 18/05/2020 08:34 by BrianJosie

Hi there does anyone know the rough cost of fitted the E&P full system to a single axle caravan please? .

Brian & Jo

Posted on 18/05/2020 11:30

Roughly £3000. Think it's the same for single and double axles. Only difference will be length of pipework. 

Mund60 replied on 18/05/2020 12:58

Posted on 18/05/2020 12:58

I have the E & P full system fitted to a fifth wheel co. Inos Caravan and it works very well indeed. I think the fore and aft levelling is very useful on sidling pitches.

 

richardandros replied on 18/05/2020 14:03

Posted on 18/05/2020 08:34 by BrianJosie

Hi there does anyone know the rough cost of fitted the E&P full system to a single axle caravan please? .

Brian & Jo

Posted on 18/05/2020 14:03

I've been quoted £2300 (in round figures) for the Compact system and £3300 for the full system.

stephen p replied on 18/05/2020 17:45

Posted on 18/05/2020 14:44 by bill

May I ask where you got it fitted in Norfolk ?

Posted on 18/05/2020 17:45

We got the name from the E&P list of dealers, It wasn't the nearest dealer to us but we often holiday in Norfolk and servicing can be done on the way / way home.

http://www.fullcircleenterprises.co.uk/

Banham Zoo and Bressigham Steam & Gardens nearby for entertainment while they fit the system.

Tip: if you are going  there with a caravan don't follow your sat nav, go via Garboldisham, we ended up down some horrendous narrow lanes.

themayfly replied on 24/10/2020 10:20

Posted on 24/10/2020 10:20

Going back to the original question, did you ever get it fitted and your thoughts. I say that as I'm going to get the full system on my bailey when it arrives in Jan/Feb

Mike

 

themayfly replied on 24/10/2020 22:05

Posted on 14/05/2020 06:25 by richardandros

I have recently paid a deposit to have the E&P system fitted to our Knaus as soon as the lockdown permits and whilst I recognise I am talking to a limited audience, I was wondering if anyone could advise whether, in their experience, it was worth paying the extra £1000 or so to have the full system fitted as opposed to the 'compact' system which just levels side to side.

I have been using Lock 'n Level both to level the van and fit the twin wheel locks for over 6 years now - and have been pleased with it.  However, a recent knee injury has meant that it is extremely painful to kneel down and deploy the L 'n L and fit the wheel locks. The E&P system will permit me to do this much more easily.

I am just wondering if I go for the compact system, whether or not I will regret not having the full system fitted since it's not possible to 'extend' the system if I change my mind at a later date.

I'd be particularly interested to hear from anyone who 'just' has the compact version fitted and what their experience is.

Thanks - Richard

 

Posted on 24/10/2020 22:05

 Going back to the original question, did you ever get it fitted and your thoughts. I say that as I'm going to get the full system on my bailey when it arrives in Jan/Feb

richardandros replied on 25/10/2020 06:58

Posted on 24/10/2020 22:05 by themayfly

 Going back to the original question, did you ever get it fitted and your thoughts. I say that as I'm going to get the full system on my bailey when it arrives in Jan/Feb

Posted on 25/10/2020 06:58

Yes, I did get it fitted - the compact system - and it works a treat - now that I have got used to it!

There was a quirk because of my van and I know it does apply to others because I have spoken at length with my dealer in Cumbria who is also an authorised installer and they have come across a similar problem with Buccaneers.  (I used SAP in Doncaster because they are closer)

The system has a fail-safe - and it applies to both the compact and the full system - in that it will not allow you to retract the rams until it 'knows' that the steadies have been retracted.

To do this, you have to either raise or lower the jockey wheel manually until it 'beeps' and therefore the control box has registered that the steadies are up.

Trouble with my van is that it's very long (8.1m) plus it has a longer than normal A-frame (Knaus Starclass).  Consequently, compared with a smaller van, each turn of the jockey wheel handle has less effect on the inclination of the van and sometimes, I had to get the hitch almost on the floor for it to register.  It was all a bit hit and miss - worked sometimes but not others. Needless to say, quite disappointing and very frustrating.

Then - thanks to KnausCol - whom I met a few weeks ago - he pointed out that there is a method of over-riding this fail safe - intended for when the levelling has been deployed whilst the van is still hitched to the car - it's in the manual - but who reads those!

Having made sure that the steadies are up, I now use this method and it works every time.

In terms of deployment, I can lift the nearside wheels off the ground - fit both wheel locks and then level it in about 5 minutes and I know - that because I have 'tweaked' my version of 'level', the van will be set up correctly for the shower to drain properly - every time.  Levelling fore and aft (you get a 'beep' from the control box when this is achieved) is simple and using an electric drill for the steadies, it's done in a couple of minutes - as I want it - and I don't think the extra £1200 for the full system is justified.

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

RogerRose replied on 06/11/2020 23:36

Posted on 06/11/2020 23:36

Hi

We have just had the full E&P levelling system fitted to our Autocruise Pace motorhome.

It cost an eye watering £5,500 - but we are delighted.

They now have a lovely touch screen control (like a smart phone).

It levels automatically in under a minute, and can lift the whole van off the ground by about 8 inches.

Ideal for wheel changing or working underneath.

Advantages are - No more arguments about how level we are.

There is no movement at all inside the van as the weight is off the wheels. Much more impressive than it sounds.

When stored it takes strain off suspension and tyres, and the handbrake is off, so will not bind on.

Ours was fitted by Courtside Conversions in Tiverton. Fantastic job. they even replaced suspension rubbers and exhaust rubbers that had rotted at no charge.

They spent ages describing operation to us, and gave us a good look around our van whilst on the lift.

Highly recommended.

Roger Harding

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