Installing a 2nd leisure battery

mickysf replied on 18/10/2018 06:44

Posted on 18/10/2018 06:44

Twenty five years ago, on our first motorhome, I installed another battery along side the existing one. Then I coupled the two batteries negative terminals together. using an appropriate jumping cable. Finally, I fitted a quality clip on terminal on the single positive cable. This + cable could then be alternated between the batteries. Okay, so the system did lengthen off grid camping opportunities but it called for careful management of the charging (either when driving or when available on EHU). I also had to ensure that on using neither battery was ever depleted to that critical point but that I already had to do when I had just the one battery anyway. This system worked for some 5 years wirhout issue until we bought our first brand new MH which came with a second battery  'permanently' wired in and had its own inbuilt charging management system with a low battery alarm. However, even with this I've still had to keep an eye out so as not to reach that critical discharge point on either battery. Now the question is, as I'm soon to swap our van for a new one should I go that one step further and install a solar panel? Part of me thinks though that I could return to that system I used all those years ago, afterall, it wasn't that much of a pain! Any thoughts on the above or alternative systems would be welcomed, also, if I go down the solar route, what size would folk recommend?

peedee replied on 19/10/2018 08:06

Posted on 19/10/2018 08:06

Think I would rather stick to a single battery with a good solar charge and monitor system than faff around with a multi meter and swapping batteries.

peedee

 

mickysf replied on 19/10/2018 08:14

Posted on 19/10/2018 08:06 by peedee

Think I would rather stick to a single battery with a good solar charge and monitor system than faff around with a multi meter and swapping batteries.

peedee

 

Posted on 19/10/2018 08:14

I think I'd agree, may just keep my second battery to use whilst in winter storage and just keep the other 'topped' up at home. As we visit our van in storage and occasionally use during the cold dark months we could swap them over then. 

As for placing and using them side by side but as individual & independant units as described, it's not so much as swapping batteries, just swapping the + terminal clip from one to the other. 

Who knows, depends what I decide on re MH and what I can barter for.

mickysf replied on 19/10/2018 17:53

Posted on 19/10/2018 17:53

I guess I just need to make that leap of faiths then and trust the solar panel, the charger, the battery and enough sun! wink And to cap it all I now am told that deisel vehicles are 'soon' to be banned! 😱

 

young thomas replied on 19/10/2018 18:17

Posted on 19/10/2018 18:17

employing a solar panel to keep leisure and cab batteries fully charged is such a common place installation these days, especially if done as part of the original spec or by the dealer as part of a sales deal.

my own system is very straight forward....100w panel feeds simple twin channel regulator to split the charge to each set of batteries in line with a user programmable setting.

no passing through any third party PSU as our Swift did and some other brands do.

to me, the simpler the better.

along with the obvious advantage of keeping batteries up while in storage (or on the drive) it also opens up options for easily using sites that don't have EHU, for example the excellent C&CC THS network which get you close into many UK towns at a really good price.

 

brue replied on 21/10/2018 18:33

Posted on 18/10/2018 11:14 by mickysf

Will do, looking at a couple, may opt for the Bourton which comes with a 80W SP. Might haggle for a larger capacity as part of the deal as I don't  think that system they are fitting is built for or will cope with an additional leisure battery. The new automatic sprinter also has a canny spec and I really miss that auto box. The other possiblility is the Rapido V55 panel van as we wanted to downsize to something under 6.5m, they both fit this wish.

Posted on 21/10/2018 18:33

We have managed very well with our AS Merc 100w solar roof panel (space limited us to this size) and one battery. Charging up the engine and leisure battery is useful and we haven't found any need for extra equipment. We found some good LEDs recently so the lighting is much better than previously. I'd say look at the latest possibilities, don't look back! smile

mickysf replied on 21/10/2018 19:06

Posted on 21/10/2018 18:33 by brue

We have managed very well with our AS Merc 100w solar roof panel (space limited us to this size) and one battery. Charging up the engine and leisure battery is useful and we haven't found any need for extra equipment. We found some good LEDs recently so the lighting is much better than previously. I'd say look at the latest possibilities, don't look back! smile

Posted on 21/10/2018 19:06

Cheers brue, will do, just need that faith, hope the AS technologies are up to it!  I am looking forward but what will that future look like or bring? Heaven knows!

brue replied on 21/10/2018 19:23

Posted on 21/10/2018 19:23

Well, just enjoy the present, hope you find what you like. We've been pleased with our AS, our second one. The wiring etc was there for the solar panel and OH fitted it himself, found one on ebay and it's been good. smile

young thomas replied on 21/10/2018 19:35

Posted on 21/10/2018 19:35

in some circumstances, the specific Sargent PSU fited by AS has caused issues with the success (or not....) of the SP installation. the Sargent PSU is being used as a regulator....and to split the charge.

I think it's the Sargent 500 (from reading their forum, worth a read Micky) that is so power hungry that it takes more solar power to support itself than its able to pass on to the batteries....ie often no charging despite favourable conditions...

this is a known (frustrating) issue, and on any after market install, I would definitely keep,the system simple as I posted earlier and avoid using the Sargent unit. 

 

brue replied on 21/10/2018 20:17

Posted on 21/10/2018 20:17

We've not had any problems BB, it could be caused by a low powered SP,  that's all I can I can think of, ours has been fine.

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