Hot water problems with shower

Ellie521 replied on 25/10/2018 21:08

Posted on 25/10/2018 21:08

Back in September we traded our caravan in for an Elddis Impressa 175 motorhome. Right from the start we have had problems with the hot water in the shower. My routine for a shower is to wet my hair, turn off tap, soap hair, turn tap back on and rinse hair, turn off tap, apply conditioner and then soap body whilst tap is off. Then finally turn tap back on and rinse hair and body. This is the way we showered in our caravan and we managed to get two showers and some washing up done with one tank of hot water.

Sadly in the motorhome, by the time I turn the tap on to rinse my hair after shampooing, the water is already getting cooler. I am normally only a quarter of the way through rinsing my body before the water is absolutely freezing. I estimate this to be between two and three minutes of warm water if that.

We took the motorhome back to the dealer and they told us it was because it had a smaller tank than the caravan (8 litres rather than 10 litres). Surely it shouldn’t make this much difference?

We are planning to go touring for a year in our motorhome in the future but how can we do this if we cannot have a semi decent shower especially in the winter. We are beginning to wish we’d kept the caravan!

Has anyone else had this problem with their hot water?

Navigateur replied on 25/10/2018 22:30

Posted on 25/10/2018 22:30

Not had the problem but have used both gas and electric tank heaters on at same time to prolong the availability of hot water.

A suggestion in a similar thread a while ago was to reduce the flow rate so there was less water coming out. Some showers have a washer in the flow line that can be changed to one with a smaller hole.

replied on 25/10/2018 22:41

Posted on 25/10/2018 22:41

Maybe a different shower head? 

KeithandMargaret replied on 26/10/2018 07:41

Posted on 26/10/2018 07:41

Are you heating the water by gas or electric ?

We found we have more hot water (for longer) when we use gas.

No idea why - but we do.

This is in a Pilote MH.

 

 

Tinwheeler replied on 26/10/2018 13:04

Posted on 26/10/2018 13:04

Are you using the 2kw setting for the water heating element and is the water temp set to 60°, or more if possible? If not, there is unlikely to be enough hot water to do very much.

The hotter the water to start with, the more cold is mixed from the tank to set a usable temperature. Thus the hot water will last longer.

As hot water is used, cold water enters the water heater and starts to cool the contents.

young thomas replied on 26/10/2018 14:20

Posted on 26/10/2018 14:20

according to the PMH test of this product, the max temp is 70 deg and the two electric power settings are 750/1500w.

as this will heat the water a little more slowly than a comparable Combi (although it has to heat 10l and not 8) it's imperative that you're confident the water is fully heated.

im not convinced at all that using gas will make things better, but give it a try...

As TW says, the hotter the water, the more 'shower temperature' water you will have available.

your shower 'technique' is pretty much van folklore and as you've been successful using this in the caravan I don't see why it isn't working here....

unless the water isn't fully up to heat.

as an off line test, perhaps run the water heater to its max, run some into a plugged sink, test temp with a thermometer.

also continue to run just the hot (from the shower) into a bucket until the temp eases off. the volume in the bucket will tell you the true volume of hot you have.

youll now have checked the temp and the amount you have.

if these are 70 deg and 8 ltrs, then it may be just the difference of having 2 ltrs less hot that's the difference.

we have an Eco Camel shower head that works well.

im in first, wash as you do (no conditioner) and out in a couple of mins..

OH is then able to 'luxuriate' and use as much as required, she will be having a conditioner phase as you do......but is able to do this even after I've already showered.

good luck.

brue replied on 26/10/2018 16:24

Posted on 26/10/2018 16:24

We've found that if one of us has a wash first it tends to lessen the amount of hot water, so spread the usage out if possible and get an eco camel shower head, we've got one and it does help reduce the volume going through.

young thomas replied on 26/10/2018 16:42

Posted on 26/10/2018 16:42

IMHO, for those vanners who need to get two showers (between themwink) in the morning, I reckon there are two ways to play it....

each person has a short shower and, without reheating water between showers, it's certainly possible for the second person to have a perfectly acceptable one.

alternatively, first person has longer in the shower, using more water than in the earlier example....leave water heating on (perhaps another 20mins before back up to full temp) and then second person has a long shower, too...

downside, takes longer to get both showered and uses much more water, a possible issue for caravanners with a barrel.

Tammygirl replied on 26/10/2018 17:51

Posted on 26/10/2018 16:42 by young thomas

IMHO, for those vanners who need to get two showers (between themwink) in the morning, I reckon there are two ways to play it....

each person has a short shower and, without reheating water between showers, it's certainly possible for the second person to have a perfectly acceptable one.

alternatively, first person has longer in the shower, using more water than in the earlier example....leave water heating on (perhaps another 20mins before back up to full temp) and then second person has a long shower, too...

downside, takes longer to get both showered and uses much more water, a possible issue for caravanners with a barrel.

Posted on 26/10/2018 17:51

No issues here with that BB, we only have a 23 Ltr water container but we can both have lovely hot showers one after the other in the new caravan (also in the previous mh)

I go first (of course) the OH follows me. We have the hot water on high heat, we've only used it on hook up so far but no problem with running out of hot water.

The shower head is a camel one and the pressure is the best we've ever had and can put some of the club sites to shame.

MichaelT replied on 26/10/2018 18:31

Posted on 26/10/2018 18:31

We find you need to have the water on boost and wait till the thermometer on the control panel stops flashing (meaning the water has boosted to required temperature) then you can use it, so long as Mrs T does not wash hair and we are having a quick shower we can get 2 out of a full tank albeit it is getting cooler at the end of the 2nd shower.  Best to wait another 10 mins or so for the water to reheat.

We do find if you use Mix 2 it does heat faster (obvs) and seems to get hotter.  We have Truma 6e Combi boiler.

Ellie521 replied on 26/10/2018 18:45

Posted on 26/10/2018 18:45

Hi, thanks for all your responses. We have tried the shower using gas but it doesn’t make any difference.

We will try a new shower head and also checking the temperature and filling a bucket. I don’t think the temperature is a problem as it’s always scorching when we first turn the water on, it just seems to start cooling down very quickly and then go freezing. 

We are due to go away end of November so will try the suggestions.

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