Hot water problems with shower

Ellie521 replied on 25/10/2018 21:08

Posted on 25/10/2018 21:08

Back in September we traded our caravan in for an Elddis Impressa 175 motorhome. Right from the start we have had problems with the hot water in the shower. My routine for a shower is to wet my hair, turn off tap, soap hair, turn tap back on and rinse hair, turn off tap, apply conditioner and then soap body whilst tap is off. Then finally turn tap back on and rinse hair and body. This is the way we showered in our caravan and we managed to get two showers and some washing up done with one tank of hot water.

Sadly in the motorhome, by the time I turn the tap on to rinse my hair after shampooing, the water is already getting cooler. I am normally only a quarter of the way through rinsing my body before the water is absolutely freezing. I estimate this to be between two and three minutes of warm water if that.

We took the motorhome back to the dealer and they told us it was because it had a smaller tank than the caravan (8 litres rather than 10 litres). Surely it shouldn’t make this much difference?

We are planning to go touring for a year in our motorhome in the future but how can we do this if we cannot have a semi decent shower especially in the winter. We are beginning to wish we’d kept the caravan!

Has anyone else had this problem with their hot water?

Vanbirds68 replied on 26/10/2018 19:06

Posted on 26/10/2018 07:41 by KeithandMargaret

Are you heating the water by gas or electric ?

We found we have more hot water (for longer) when we use gas.

No idea why - but we do.

This is in a Pilote MH.

 

 

Posted on 26/10/2018 19:06

Yes we find this. Mr VB says the electric heating element is placed higher in the tank than the gas one, which is at the bottom of the tank. As someone else has said - you can run both together to ensure you have plenty of hot water. Sounds like a miserable experience you’ve got now, hope you can get it sorted. 

young thomas replied on 26/10/2018 19:39

Posted on 26/10/2018 19:39

although I've no experience of this, there may be some logic in the 'position' theory giving slightly more hot water when using gas than electric.

but it seems for most users, even using electric, there is sufficient hot water for a couple of showers...

i might have a look at the Truma diagram....undecided...sad git, lol...

Tinwheeler replied on 26/10/2018 20:02

Posted on 26/10/2018 20:02

The water will heat quicker on gas than electric. The cold water going into the tank will, therefore, not have such a dramatic cooling effect because it’s heating quicker.

Takethedogalong replied on 26/10/2018 21:42

Posted on 26/10/2018 21:42

I seldom wash my long hair in the van/MH, purely and simply because I use too much water trying to get all the conditioner out. Prefer to have a decent shower using onsite facilities. Two showers with hair wash/condition was fine when I had short hair. You also need a decent pressure to rinse conditioner out. I have debated having hair cut a few times.......

young thomas replied on 27/10/2018 09:10

Posted on 27/10/2018 09:10

I doubt even a 6kw gas burner can heat cold water to shower temperature as fast as it enters the system.....one thing it isn't, is an 'instant' type system.

yes, the minute or two between two people showering might have more heat loss replaced using gas than electric but marginal in the extreme in the tiny time frame...

try draining the dank of hot and then get in the shower and it will be pretty apparent....irrespective of heat source...

Re: the boost function....there is much confusion as to its purpose.

it is not a setting to miraculously give virtually instant hot water, the unit is not capable of this....

even in 6kw gas only mode, I would expect the average heating time to 60 deg to be 20 mins or so..

what Boost does do is prioritise hot water heating over room heating when both heating and hot water are selected....

under normal operation it's the heating that's priority, with water heating as a by product.

it also raises the water temperature by 2 deg, to 62 deg. whether this slight rise might give a longer 'mixed' temp shower is debatable but every bit helps I guess.

from the Combi CP Plus operating instructions manual....

Change Hot Water Level

off - Hot water generator is switched off.

Eco – Hot water temperature 40 °C

Hot - Hot water temperature 60 °C

Boost - Targeted, rapid heating of boiler contents (Boiler priority) for a maximum time window of 40 minutes. Then the water temperature is kept at the higher level for two post-heating cycles (about 62 °C). After reaching the water temperature, heating of the room continues.

SteveL replied on 27/10/2018 11:25

Posted on 27/10/2018 11:25

We have an Alde system which I think is a 8 litre hot water tank. We only use it on Electric and normally only on a service pitch. I like a reasonable shower, so allow the tank to heat up again (30 mins) after the OH has showered. There is a noticeable difference in the length of shower if boost 70C is used, rather than the standard 60C . There is also a noticeable difference between length of showers winter and summer. Presumably because the replacement water is that much colder in winter. Although I assume that wouldn't be as marked with a MH's inboard tanks.

However, summer or winter, on either setting, there is ample for a good long shower. Sufficient to wash hair and body without turning off. Although I do because, of the showers small size, the soap would wash off before applied.😂 We have an eco camel shower head, which I think makes the available water stretch significantly further.

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