Cash only in on site shops

There seems to be a few red herrings appearing in this thread.

Indeed.

I was resigned to the club payment methods remaining in the 19th century so that children could learn to count and change could be given to charity.

Both admirable actions but not really the function of the on site shop.

On CC sites I have always paid the recommended retail price for gas. 

Red herrings indeed ....

The CAMC don’t run a shop on their sites. It’s fairly obvious that they don’t want to run a shop on their sites. Enterprising wardens, some more than others, provide a limited range of services, which they finance themselves. This means they will hopefully make a small profit in the long term, having taken all the risk. Whether it’s for extra income or to help us out, who knows, but it no doubt helps some people out. The wardens are able to bank the cash paid for these items into their own bank accounts, without charge. Card payments, whilst incredible popular nowadays, are expensive to both provide and carry out. So they don’t accept them. Would you ???

It seems fairly obvious that if the CAMC had to deal with the issue of card payments on behalf of wardens, or to run the shop as part of the CAMC offer, they would choose to simply stop allowing the wardens to sell things. Obvious because they plainly don’t want to run a shop, and because they would be unable to process transactions on behalf of the wardens due to VAT and HMRC implications.

Is that inclusive of the reduced rate VAT due to HMRC, wotever that rate is. How many bottles formed the single delivery to the site or usage thereof? Is there a refund of VAT on unsold or unused gas bottles? Who is the VAT collector on behalf of HMRC, warden, supplier or you as the end user / burner of the gas? Has the due VAT been paid in the chain? As the end user, the burner of the gas, are you responsible for the VAT?

and all you are doing is going on tour!! 

At least milk is simpler. 

I doubt that the annual takings in the site shop exceed the £85,000 annual threshold for VAT registration 

VAT registration is available for any entity where VAT on supplies impacts, regardless of turnover  Why pay tax unnecessarily.

The important issue is whether the club makes it clear on the site details that goods in the majority of site shops are cash only. This thread has reminded me about cash for gas. 

Why on earth would a warden choose to register for VAT ? They would be able to claim back the VAT they pay to suppliers, but would lose 1/6 of their turnover, the difference making them worse off, or the flat rate scheme and they would pay 16.5% of turnover. Plus the hassle and paperwork !!

A warden would probably rather you put your dog on a 3m lead, walking the wrong way round the one way system, than they had to do that 😎😂😂

Hi everyone,

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this very engaging and interesting discussion.

The Club has two ‘official’ Club Shops, one being at Hillhead and the other is at Brecon Beacons. These shops accept both cash and card payments and stock food and drink as well as additional leisure essentials such as BBQs, outdoor furniture, cleaning products etc.  What’s more members of the Club can received up to 10% discount on selected leisure essentials. We are hoping to roll out more Club Shops in the near future!   

All sites have the option to sell products on their site.This is at the discretion of the site staff with the site staff purchasing stock and retaining all earnings. The Club does not get involved with any purchasing of products, fund management etc.

Jspur, we have passed your feedback with regards to card machines onto the sites operations for their reference. Many thanks. 

We are hoping to roll out more Club Shops in the near future!

The Club need not trouble on my behalf Ro