Posted on 08/08/2022 20:23
Hi, I'm buying a new Bailey Unicorn. Dealer has informed me it's in but alko stabliser not yet fitted due to supply difficulties. Dealer suggests it's fine, just have to inform my insurance. When the part is available it can be fitted. Anyone else having similar issues? I'm not keen to take delivery to be honest. Advice appreciated. Thank you.
Posted on 14/08/2022 19:51
I have towed thousands of miles without ATC without issue. Our current 'van didn't have ATC fitted, but our previous 'van did. The many many 'vans previous to that didnt either.
If your outfit is correctly matched, loaded correctly, and you drive within the legal speed limits.you should be absolutely fine.
However yes inform your insurers if you have been given a discount for having it. In the event of an accident it could give wriggle room.
(Highly unlikely the 'van has been supplied with a 'basic' none stabilizing hitch.
I certainly would allow the dealer to retrofit a unit when they get one. Meanwhile enjoy your 'van.
Posted on 14/08/2022 19:51 by JaRTI have towed thousands of miles without ATC without issue. Our current 'van didn't have ATC fitted, but our previous 'van did. The many many 'vans previous to that didnt either.
If your outfit is correctly matched, loaded correctly, and you drive within the legal speed limits.you should be absolutely fine.
However yes inform your insurers if you have been given a discount for having it. In the event of an accident it could give wriggle room.
(Highly unlikely the 'van has been supplied with a 'basic' none stabilizing hitch.
I certainly would allow the dealer to retrofit a unit when they get one. Meanwhile enjoy your 'van.
Posted on 14/08/2022 20:11
.... I've driven 1000s of miles without ABS on my cars, but it's something I wouldn't be without now ... not that I've triggered it very often. And if the ATC on my caravan has triggered I've yet to notice.
As above, I'd let the dealer keep the caravan until they got the parts to fit .... a caravan taking up space on their forecourt/site might encourage them to pull their finger out.
Posted on 14/08/2022 20:11 by EmilysDad.... I've driven 1000s of miles without ABS on my cars, but it's something I wouldn't be without now ... not that I've triggered it very often. And if the ATC on my caravan has triggered I've yet to notice.
As above, I'd let the dealer keep the caravan until they got the parts to fit .... a caravan taking up space on their forecourt/site might encourage them to pull their finger out.
Posted on 14/08/2022 20:37
I disagree.
Atc and abs are two completely different technologies designed to cope with two entirely different situations. Abs is not like atc and is certainly not compulsory yet on on caravans.
I maintain the OP should just enjoy their caravan untill it can be fitted.
Posted on 14/08/2022 20:37 by JaRTI disagree.
Atc and abs are two completely different technologies designed to cope with two entirely different situations. Abs is not like atc and is certainly not compulsory yet on on caravans.
I maintain the OP should just enjoy their caravan untill it can be fitted.
Posted on 14/08/2022 20:51
Atc and abs are two completely different technologies designed to cope with two entirely different situations
Are they that different? I just picked ABS as an example of modern electrickery on modern cars. But they are both passive preventing the proverbial from hitting the fan when it might have all gone wrong.
But .... I still suggest that NOT taking the caravan might encourage the dealer to get on with it as & when he gets the parts.
Posted on 14/08/2022 20:51 by EmilysDadAtc and abs are two completely different technologies designed to cope with two entirely different situations
Are they that different? I just picked ABS as an example of modern electrickery on modern cars. But they are both passive preventing the proverbial from hitting the fan when it might have all gone wrong.
But .... I still suggest that NOT taking the caravan might encourage the dealer to get on with it as & when he gets the parts.
Posted on 14/08/2022 21:06
Yes they are different.
ABS is considered essential on a modern motor vehicle and therefore compulsory on modern motor vehicles.
ATC is optional. If it was considered essential it would be standard.
I have had too many caravans to recall since we started in 1984 and only had one with ATC.
I consider it a 'nice to have' but not an essential. A bit like 'lane keep assist' or 'collision avoidance' on modern cars, to use other modern car technologies by way of example.
Posted on 14/08/2022 21:06 by JaRTYes they are different.
ABS is considered essential on a modern motor vehicle and therefore compulsory on modern motor vehicles.
ATC is optional. If it was considered essential it would be standard.
I have had too many caravans to recall since we started in 1984 and only had one with ATC.
I consider it a 'nice to have' but not an essential. A bit like 'lane keep assist' or 'collision avoidance' on modern cars, to use other modern car technologies by way of example.
Posted on 14/08/2022 21:24
..ABS is considered essential on a modern motor vehicle and therefore compulsory on modern motor vehicles.
but it used to be optional .... like screen washers used to be. Wasn't the Granada/Scorpio the first to fit as standard?And as I've not suggested that towing a caravan without ATC is impossible, but as said many time above, leaving the caravan at the supplying dealer might focus their mind when it comes to them fitting it.
But we're all speculating because the Op has yet to confirm what they're not getting in their new 'van.
Posted on 14/08/2022 21:24 by EmilysDad..ABS is considered essential on a modern motor vehicle and therefore compulsory on modern motor vehicles.
but it used to be optional .... like screen washers used to be. Wasn't the Granada/Scorpio the first to fit as standard?And as I've not suggested that towing a caravan without ATC is impossible, but as said many time above, leaving the caravan at the supplying dealer might focus their mind when it comes to them fitting it.
But we're all speculating because the Op has yet to confirm what they're not getting in their new 'van.
Posted on 14/08/2022 21:47
I didnt actually say that you said it was impossible to tow without ATC, so please dont suggest that I did.
You did however come across as suggesting it was virtually essential to have it.
I'm merely suggesting (as others have done so, Im not sure why you singled my post out to disagree with) that based on my very extensive towing experience without ATC it is not essential at all so there is no reason for the OP not to enjoy their 'van in the meantime.
As for pressure on the dealer well yes it may help but I suspect they are in the hands of Alko or one or more of their component suppliers so good luck with that.
Posted on 14/08/2022 21:47 by JaRTI didnt actually say that you said it was impossible to tow without ATC, so please dont suggest that I did.
You did however come across as suggesting it was virtually essential to have it.
I'm merely suggesting (as others have done so, Im not sure why you singled my post out to disagree with) that based on my very extensive towing experience without ATC it is not essential at all so there is no reason for the OP not to enjoy their 'van in the meantime.
As for pressure on the dealer well yes it may help but I suspect they are in the hands of Alko or one or more of their component suppliers so good luck with that.
Posted on 15/08/2022 08:11
I’m in the “nice to have, but not essential” camp. I had it on my caravan, but after two fruitless attempts by the manufacturer at rectifying a problem with it I removed the unit altogether. I still have the hitch stabiliser and the car’s TSP to rely on and I can’t say that it hasn’t done as good a job.
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