Alde fluid - my plan

mylosdad replied on 20/03/2017 10:53

Posted on 20/03/2017 10:53

I have plucked up courage to change the fluid in my Alde Heating System.
Caravan is Lunar Clubman SB 2011, with original blue fluid.
I have 5L Comma Xstream G40, de ionized water and a new plastic watering can.
I have found the drain plug and 6 bleed points.
Header tank is in Wardrobe in middle nearside of van, drain plug near the front of the van on the off side.
1St question , when I drain fluid off, will the towel rail in the bathroom prevent the nearside from draining?
If so how to I get the remaining fluid out?
next I intend to do a Flush, with tap water to clean out the system, is that a good idea?
I would like the system to be more or less empty before I replace the plug and add the new mixture. Can I do that?
Next step fill the system with a 50)/50 mix via Header Tank using watering can, allowing time for things to settle and bleeding all bleed points.
Allow to settle again, turn on pump to dislodge trapped air.
Turn on heating and see how it goes.
Such a lot of people on this, and other forums say it is straight forward, I really want to do it myself.
I would welcome any comments and advice regarding my plan.
Thanks
John

EmilysDad replied on 20/03/2017 14:34

Posted on 20/03/2017 14:34

There are a couple of videos on YouTube about doing this iob .... I'm  on a phone or I'd paste a link. I would try to have just clean water in the system and  then drain enough to add the required new antifreeze to give the correct percentage rather than fill the system will a dilute mixture. 

replied on 20/03/2017 14:55

Posted on 20/03/2017 14:55

Tap water is not recommended due to possible bacterial growth I think. 

NevChap replied on 20/03/2017 15:07

Posted on 20/03/2017 15:07

I can understand you wanting to do it yourself as I have just booked my Swift Elegance in for its annual service and have been told that the Alde heating fluid needs replacing at a cost of £180 on top of the service! I'll have them do it and begrudgingly pay the cost as a) don't trust myself to do it properly and b) it may affect the warranty if I DIY it.

Good luck, I'm sure it is not too difficult just a bit time consuming.

retiredbeep replied on 20/03/2017 15:32

Posted on 20/03/2017 15:32

I did this on a Clubman SE. First thing is to fit a tap on the outlet to replace the drain bung. This  gives much more control on the drainage as the fluid is poisonous to pets so you don't want spills. You will have to get somewhere to dispose of the old fluid I gave mine to my son in law who owns his own garage, you can't pour it down the drain. Don't worry about getting all the old fluid out as the old and new are compatible just get out as much as you can. The towel rail is just like another radiator when you open the bleed screw the fluid will drain out. Just take your time and do it stage by stage and keep some made up fluid with you as towing may dislodge a little air so you can top up as necessary. Takes a bit of time but worth it in the end. 

mylosdad replied on 20/03/2017 22:22

Posted on 20/03/2017 22:22

Thank you for your replies. I will avoid using tap water.

The only videos I found on Youtbe were the ALDE ones using their special pump, will look again.

Retiredbleep , do you have an idea how much you drained from yours?

Whatever I get out, say 5, 8 or 10L, shall I just put the same amount back in as a 50/50 mix, or put the full 5L Xstream in then top up with water?

I read somewhere that the average Alde caravan system holds about 12L, but draining only gets out about half of it.

I am very patient and don`t mind spending time to get it right.

retiredbeep replied on 21/03/2017 09:44

Posted on 21/03/2017 09:44

I would say about 8 L it was a while ago so I can't be too accurate. I certainly did not try to get every last drop out. I flushed the system with a bit of ionized water and then topped up and I think I used a slightly stronger mix to allow for any water that was still in the system. I think you can test the strength of the mix with a antifreeze tester if you are worried but your judgement should suffice.

KjellNN replied on 21/03/2017 15:53

Posted on 21/03/2017 15:53

I have done ours once, need to do it again later this year.

To clear out the old stuff  I drained,  filled with water to the usual level, circulated with the pump, repeat multiple times.  Once only clean water came out I added the correct amount of glycol ( ours holds 13 litres of fluid) circulated and then topped up with water to the correct level.

After venting I topped up again,  circulated, repeat 2 or 3 times.

Did not get any problems with air in the system

mylosdad replied on 21/03/2017 16:21

Posted on 21/03/2017 16:21

Thanks KjellNN

Ours holds 13 L too, about how much did you get out when you drained?

You say " when only clean  water came out you added the correct amount of glycol" .Not sure what you mean by the correct amount of glycol. Did you drain off 5L of clean water and put 5L neat glycol into the system, then let the pump mix it up?That would give a 40/60 mix i think.

I have 5L G40 and 8L de ionised water, better get more water to flush it through.

I appreciate your advice.

John

replied on 21/03/2017 16:31

Posted on 21/03/2017 16:31

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