Alde fluid - my plan

mylosdad replied on 20/03/2017 10:53

Posted on 20/03/2017 10:53

I have plucked up courage to change the fluid in my Alde Heating System.
Caravan is Lunar Clubman SB 2011, with original blue fluid.
I have 5L Comma Xstream G40, de ionized water and a new plastic watering can.
I have found the drain plug and 6 bleed points.
Header tank is in Wardrobe in middle nearside of van, drain plug near the front of the van on the off side.
1St question , when I drain fluid off, will the towel rail in the bathroom prevent the nearside from draining?
If so how to I get the remaining fluid out?
next I intend to do a Flush, with tap water to clean out the system, is that a good idea?
I would like the system to be more or less empty before I replace the plug and add the new mixture. Can I do that?
Next step fill the system with a 50)/50 mix via Header Tank using watering can, allowing time for things to settle and bleeding all bleed points.
Allow to settle again, turn on pump to dislodge trapped air.
Turn on heating and see how it goes.
Such a lot of people on this, and other forums say it is straight forward, I really want to do it myself.
I would welcome any comments and advice regarding my plan.
Thanks
John

KjellNN replied on 24/03/2017 19:33

Posted on 24/03/2017 16:58 by mylosdad

I rang ALDE while I was in Halfords and asked which one to buy , he said 'ready mixed'.

Dont know what the concentration is now, but if it holds about 13 L and i put in 5L glycol then it is about 40/60 i hope!

Posted on 24/03/2017 19:33

Not if you used ready mixed.

You should only use ready mixed if you have the system empty and are refilling it totally.

For a 13 litre system to be 40% glycol, you need to use 5.2 litres of concentrated glycol.

replied on 24/03/2017 19:43

Posted on 24/03/2017 19:43

If the system does hold 13 litres then if you added 5 litres of diluted you are well under strength. No idea of dilution rate but even if 50% was the mix as bought you will have less than half the required strength in your system. 

I would recommend checking the strength and if needed emptying some fluid (probably a fair amount if as you state the system holds 13 litres) and topping with neat antifreeze to obtain the correct concentration.  

KjellNN replied on 24/03/2017 19:46

Posted on 24/03/2017 19:46

I should think the Lunar system might be a bit under 13 litres, our twin axle Sterling is 13 litres and the Lunar is smaller I think.

Even so, using a 50/50 mix, the concentration as you say will be too low.

replied on 24/03/2017 19:48

Posted on 24/03/2017 19:48

As an aside. When I was at Alde the technician refilling my system said that they used the diluted mix to flush as they topped up. Although the materials were dearer that way it actually worked out cheaper for the company compared to the cost of labour in flushing with distilled and then adding antifreeze etc. 

If I get my system refilled before I get rid of the van I feel a trip to Wellingborough coming on.

vannersRus replied on 29/03/2017 09:16

Posted on 29/03/2017 09:16

I recon KjeIINN has this job by the scruff of the neck. I would go along with his method but add a 50/50 mixture. If the mixture is to thin you could get "kettling", a siuation where the fluid boil's just like central heating. It took the suplier a year to sort my caravan heating noise and Alde one telephone call to diagnose the issue.Hope this helps

replied on 29/03/2017 09:23

Posted on 29/03/2017 09:23

I had a problem with Kettling. Only happened on 2kw not 1kw electric. Dealer new the problem and did a fluid change. They failed to get the right concentration and problem not solved. I took 'van to Alde who sorted it (Lunar picked up the bill). Alde contacted the dealer and explaine dwhy they had been unsuccessful.

xtrailman replied on 29/03/2017 12:53

Posted on 29/03/2017 12:53

I flushed with a 60/40 mix so stronger than required. antifreeze/deionised water.

xtrailman replied on 29/03/2017 12:53

Posted on 29/03/2017 12:53

I flushed with a 60/40 mix so stronger than required. antifreeze/deionised water.

EmilysDad replied on 29/03/2017 13:49

Posted on 29/03/2017 12:53 by xtrailman

I flushed with a 60/40 mix so stronger than required. antifreeze/deionised water.

Posted on 29/03/2017 13:49

You can have too much of a good thing ...... 😉 that's  why you don't need/want 100% antifreeze 

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