A new caravan???.... Which one?

DSB replied on 22/02/2023 10:43

Posted on 22/02/2023 10:43

We are currently wondering if we should 'upgrade' our caravan, and are considering a double axle....

Our main reason for upgraging is that we want a fixed 'island' fixed bed with access from both sides.  Arthritis and 'general oldness' (😀), means that it is becoming increasingly difficult for either of us to get to the 'wall' side of our fixed bed.  (We currently have a Bailey Valencia 2016).

Other things we need to condider is the permitted user payload.  Generally speaking, double axle caravans have a greater user payload, but, the possible need for a motor mover device on each wheel would eat into the payload.

Also, we do like our Thule windout awning.  To add one of these to the roof of the caravan, not only would (again) eat into the payload, but some manufacturers may well consider this as a reason to void possible warranty claims.  From past experience and conversations with retailers etc., we know that it doesn't impact on the warranty of Bailey caravans - and we like the alutech construction.

So:

  • A Bailey alutech caravan
  • An island fixed bed
  • To be able to install a Thule windout awning to the roof of the caravan
  • The greatest user payoad available after adding a motor mover
  • We do like the Alde heating
  • Prefer rear end washroom, but wouldn't dismiss central washroom.

At present we are considering an Alicante Evora, Porto, Unicorn Cartagena or Pamplona, Vigo, Cabrera.  Haven't yet checked the weights...  (towing not a problem... we have a disco)

How easy is it to get around the bottom of the fixed bed in 'night mode'...

Only ever towed a single axle caravan... what do folks think about double axle 'vans?

Any thoughts??

David

Tinwheeler replied on 23/02/2023 19:15

Posted on 23/02/2023 19:06 by eribaMotters

Should be OK:-

If the towing vehicle weighs 3500kg or less (Gross Vehicle Weight or GVW)

Length (excluding the coupling and drawbar) 7.0m
Width Maximum 2.55m

 

Colin

Posted on 23/02/2023 19:15

Yes, that agrees with the screenshot I posted but the Hobby 720 body appears to be nearly 7.9m long 🤷🏻‍♂️. Have I missed something?

eribaMotters replied on 23/02/2023 19:23

Posted on 23/02/2023 19:23

No, you are correct in that it cannot be towed, unless the Disco is a Commercial Vehicle. I posted what the regs say and not the spec of the van.

 

Colin

Tinwheeler replied on 23/02/2023 19:42

Posted on 23/02/2023 19:23 by eribaMotters

No, you are correct in that it cannot be towed, unless the Disco is a Commercial Vehicle. I posted what the regs say and not the spec of the van.

 

Colin

Posted on 23/02/2023 19:42

I know you did and I posted both in the hope that I'd overlooked something which you'd spotted. Seems that one's out of the running for David then 🙁

nelliethehooker replied on 23/02/2023 21:35

Posted on 23/02/2023 21:35

Out of context really, but I wonder how many out there taking take any regard of the allowable towing limits? We have seen a fair few that are well in excess of what is legally allowed.

wedgy replied on 23/02/2023 23:49

Posted on 22/02/2023 18:45 by Roger McNair

Hi DSB,

We have a Coachman Laser 575 Excel with a transverse island bed and large rear bathroom. The caravan is on a single axle, upgraded MTPLM of 1800kg which gives us an ample payload. This caravan is 8' wide however we have towed in France, Spain, Cornwall, Devon and Cotswolds with only one incident at a choke point on A road having left Modbury CAMC site - we met a heavily loaded HGV on a blind corner......but that was the only slightly hairy moment we've had towing a wider caravan. The advantage of the extra width is masses of internal space and clearance to walk round the double bed when its pulled out. 

Happy hunting!

Posted on 23/02/2023 23:49

Same van here,its brilliant in every way and also uprated to 1800 kg giving ample payload. My advice is to check out this model and compare with others and build quality will be a winner 

eribaMotters replied on 24/02/2023 09:19

Posted on 23/02/2023 21:35 by nelliethehooker

Out of context really, but I wonder how many out there taking take any regard of the allowable towing limits? We have seen a fair few that are well in excess of what is legally allowed.

Posted on 24/02/2023 09:19

Like some out there I am anal about towing limits, carrying an updated sheet of weights for anything that goes in or on the van. 

It has been mentioned several times before on the forum before about payloads. My view is that is criminal to produce a large 4 berth van with the limes of a 150kg payload and say it is acceptable. Such vehicles are not fit for purpose and are easily overloaded with just the basic of contents. The club obviously are not concerned about this as I recall glowing reviews in what may have been last months mag about such a van.

It really is so reassuring that David has mentioned payload. Wouldn't it be nice if we gave our vans a pre-season check and emptied them during the spring clean to see what is actually in them.

 

Colin

MaxHeadroom replied on 24/02/2023 13:46

Posted on 24/02/2023 13:46

 While you're at the NEC show have a good look around all the twin axle makes/models. I'm not sure if Swift at there this time but we love our Swift Challenger 835 (they've renamed the model to 635 Grande now). I know you had a preference for Bailey but you may well be surprised at the interior of the 835/635 Grande. The double bed does not have a 'day mode' as it's permanently extended with plenty of room around it. The bathroom is also very spacious. I'm sure they'll be one at the show somewhere amongst the dealers.

Worth a look at the very least - especially dealership specials  smile

Enjoy the show.

Andy.

 

DSB replied on 25/02/2023 21:10

Posted on 25/02/2023 21:10

We had a good look around today at spec v price 🙂.  In the end, we reckon the Evora is going to suit our needs the best, so will expect to go down that route....  we've got an option on a deal....  😀

David

DSB replied on 25/02/2023 21:14

Posted on 24/02/2023 09:19 by eribaMotters

Like some out there I am anal about towing limits, carrying an updated sheet of weights for anything that goes in or on the van. 

It has been mentioned several times before on the forum before about payloads. My view is that is criminal to produce a large 4 berth van with the limes of a 150kg payload and say it is acceptable. Such vehicles are not fit for purpose and are easily overloaded with just the basic of contents. The club obviously are not concerned about this as I recall glowing reviews in what may have been last months mag about such a van.

It really is so reassuring that David has mentioned payload. Wouldn't it be nice if we gave our vans a pre-season check and emptied them during the spring clean to see what is actually in them.

 

Colin

Posted on 25/02/2023 21:14

I'm absolutely neurotic about towing limits too, eribaM... 🤣

David

anglian replied on 02/03/2023 16:31

Posted on 02/03/2023 16:31

We have an Elddis Crusader Mistral which has a pull out bed. We wouldn't go for this design again unless we upgraded to an 8 foot wide caravan. it is impossible to get out at the end, partly because of the duvet, partly because the Alde heating 'radiator' that runs along the floor takes up any spare room for your feet. So one luckless person has to clamber over the other, which also has its issues as the mattress isn't supported as in a french bed so they also run the risk of falling off the corner...

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