So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

SteveL replied on 03/03/2019 12:01

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:37 by young thomas

Steve, when I last looked, the Canterbury Aire cost £3 a night, somewhere between free and £10wink

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:01

It certainly is BB but not the point I was making.

To expect anything other than the odd local authority, giving up part of a P& R for those sort of figures is just not going to happen. For anyone to invest in a Aire of the type shown in OP's photo, they would have to charge a realistic rate. The 16€ or its equivalent here seems about right.   Particularly so in an urban environment where land prices are through the roof. If it was actually in the city as with Baltic Wharf, I would expect to  pay substantially more.

eurortraveller replied on 03/03/2019 12:14

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:14

In Devon  - as well as the well publicised Exmouth Council car parks scheme, there are overnight Motorhome stays in car parks at Appledore, Bideford, Crediton, Holsworthy, Torrington and Westward  Ho - mostly at £5 a night. Things are moving. 

JVB66 replied on 03/03/2019 12:14

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:14

if it is such a "good" idea i wonder why organisations like Morris Leisure and Haven have not taken to this niche marketsurprised

replied on 03/03/2019 12:19

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:19

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replied on 03/03/2019 12:21

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:21

The 16€ or its equivalent here seems about right. Particularly so in an urban environment where land prices are through the roof. 

I suppose that is compatable with non-facility CC sites. They don't have showers though ....... but also don't charge 50€ a KW/H.

I suppose it would need to be where Rowntree Park is though??

SteveL replied on 03/03/2019 12:22

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:45 by

£3.50 per day with water and waste disposal available

No commercial organisation is going to match is it

 

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:22

Not sure the CAMC would want to. The still below taken from the UT video of Canterbury Aire, shows the spacing somewhat closer than that in the German example. The clip did not show any facilities. Does it have any?

NevChap replied on 03/03/2019 12:26

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:26

For me as a caravanner all I would like is more basic sites, without toilet block: just water, waste and EHU. The CAMC do provide these and they are popular but seem to be a dying breed as more and more emphasis is put on up-to-date facilities. This basic type site also fits well with the OP desire for cheaper facilities (although I know that is an oversimplification).  I know that CLs provide for this and I use them often but also like the security etc of a basic club site. Horses for courses and everything about caravanning / motorhoming is a compromise. Aires are great for MHers but not a serious investment for CAMC methinks.

replied on 03/03/2019 12:26

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:26

shows the spacing somewhat closer than that in the German example. Well I suppose it is a car park laughing

Site says fresh water and waste disposal available

replied on 03/03/2019 12:28

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:19 by

Changing the name was a pretty pointless exercise since the Club will not, cannot, provide a service for motorhomers which is more akin to the experience of motorhoming elsewhere. The UK is not geared up for it and so the Club is no different from any other UK provider in that respect. Thus the name change remains just a token gesture. I had an expectation of something different - to reflect a new ethos. But it isn't going to happen.

Maybe in time (a long time) things will change. Meanwhile a (very) few councils make provision for motorhomers who wish to overnight in their towns. And the burgeoning network of pub / farm / craft centre stopovers show hosts who seem keen to welcome motorhomers. But those schemes are comparable more with France Passion than the Aires scheme.

 

 

Posted on 03/03/2019 12:28

I had an expectation of something different - to reflect a new ethos.

No idea why you had great expectations WN. I doubt that many had

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