So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

young thomas replied on 03/03/2019 10:37

Posted on 03/03/2019 08:13 by SteveL

the former should be anything between free and £10,

This highlights a point I made earlier. If folk are only willing to pay these sort of figures for a purpose built Aire, where is the incentive for an investor to put money in. It costs more in most cities to park a car for 24 hours. So why a barrier controlled facility, with water and waste provision, which is going to require at least minimal servicing, should be cheaper, is a mystery to me.

Any cash strapped local authority would have to be confident of a real return on investment. Not some vague figures based on increased spending in shops, bars and attractions.

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:37

Steve, when I last looked, the Canterbury Aire cost £3 a night, somewhere between free and £10wink

replied on 03/03/2019 10:39

Posted on 03/03/2019 09:57 by moulesy

Thinking about Bath Chew valley, Mrs M's parents used to live in the village just 400 yards or so from the site. So we went to look at it. We decided that it would take so long to read through the draconian list of rules and regulations that we'd have no time to do anything else!

No for us, I'm afraid. frown

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:39

I did look at the terms and conditions. Item 17 amused me. 

 

17. Further Terms

Further terms and conditions are available on written request.

 

 

http://www.bathchewvalley.co.uk/termsandconditions.asp

 

 

replied on 03/03/2019 10:45

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:37 by young thomas

Steve, when I last looked, the Canterbury Aire cost £3 a night, somewhere between free and £10wink

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:45

£3.50 per day with water and waste disposal available

No commercial organisation is going to match is it

 

JVB66 replied on 03/03/2019 10:50

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:39 by

I did look at the terms and conditions. Item 17 amused me. 

 

17. Further Terms

Further terms and conditions are available on written request.

 

 

http://www.bathchewvalley.co.uk/termsandconditions.asp

 

 

Posted on 03/03/2019 10:50

our dog likes to lay in the open rear of the car and the car is where the overflow non perishable food is kept  ,so we will not be staying there 

Takethedogalong replied on 03/03/2019 11:05

Posted on 03/03/2019 11:05

I think perhaps best approach for trying to increase overnight stop points would be to target individual town planners. If all folks in MH want is a space to dump their tourer overnight, as cheaply as possible, then making overtures to places like York, surrounded by P&R facilities, might pay dividends. No overnight sleeping allowed at moment, but most of the required infrastructure is there. Stick in one of those automated black waste machines, a dump drain and a tap and it’s sorted. 

Personally, only as an emergency for us, but others don’t seem to mind. I’ve slept in lay-bys (in caravan) more attractive than that photo of EuroTs earlier in thread, when in transit.

 

peedee replied on 03/03/2019 11:07

Posted on 03/03/2019 11:07

the Scottish Govt may well find that as tourism is one of their biggest income earners that they embark on these type of facilities. The CAMC? No way.

They have already done so in the Trossachs National Park.

If you want such facilities as provided by Campingcarpark.com, and I think there is room and a need for such in the UK in the major tourist hot spots, then the best bet is to lobby them to start up in the UK rather than the Club who has certainly shown no inclination to move in this direction. It will come I am sure, the market is there and the Club should be concerned that someone like Campingcarpark doesn't get a foot in the door first.

peedee

Takethedogalong replied on 03/03/2019 11:16

Posted on 03/03/2019 11:16

It’s a balancing act. Some locations possibly don’t really need any more visitors. Dales, Cornwall are rammed to the gills with all sorts of tourists during some months, and it’s not a pleasant experience at times. You can’t move in places like York, Whitby etc...... at certain times of year (not all Summer either). 

replied on 03/03/2019 11:24

Posted on 03/03/2019 11:17 by Oneputt

Does the other club provide such facilities as aires?

Posted on 03/03/2019 11:24

No

Wherenext replied on 03/03/2019 11:30

Posted on 03/03/2019 11:30

It will come I am sure, the market is there and the Club should be concerned that someone like Campingcarpark doesn't get a foot in the door first.

Peedee, I still fail to see why Caravanners should subsidise a project that they won't be allowed to use, unless you also build in drive through spaces for overnight stops only. The club can't even find spare land to build new sites so have to resort to purchasing existing sites so I have no idea where they hope to buy land for a network of Aires

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