So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

ATDel replied on 10/03/2019 14:42

Posted on 09/03/2019 16:43 by

Did you not use any campsites?

I dont use these "Aires" things because I am a caravanner but having spent around a month a year in Spain every year for 17 years I have  no complaints about the vast majority of their sites and I have no hesitation in saying they have been nothing like club sites

Posted on 10/03/2019 14:42

And if you read my poste propery it was in answer to DD post saying that the aires are better NOT camp sites, so if you havent been to an aire I reayy dont know why you replied

replied on 10/03/2019 15:00

Posted on 10/03/2019 11:03 by Takethedogalong

I am still waiting patiently for an answer from DD regarding how many CLs (UK version of a cheap basic stopover) he has tried. Maybe BB might like to answer as well? Nothing sinister in my request, I was just wondering how many have been tried, and what they thought.

This kind of site, along with small private sites, has become our first choice when putting together a UK tour, primarily because we seldom fail to find anything in a location we choose, and the vast range of facilities, prices and very accommodating owners makes life very easy. We use Club Sites, some anyway, but mainly the more basic ones, the Racecourse Sites, and one or two perfectly placed for special events we might be undertaking. But the UK network of small sites is the main reason we remain members, like AD in range of 30+ years. Most CLs offer a very unique stopover, but with a tiny bit of research, probably 99% of CLs and small sites we choose meet our requirements. That’s why I don’t think the Club should spend lots of money on Club Site stop off pitches. Better to lobby local councils and tourist boards.

Classic example of where and who to lobby would be Northumbrian Tourist Board. The Hadrian’s Wall area is sadly rather short of caravan/MH stops in general. We have used the same CL for the last four years because this type of site is so short. Club no longer have a presence close to area, so it’s either C&CC site (if it’s open at Haltwhistle) or Hexham Racecourse (again limited season). We don’t touch former Club Site Fallowfield Dene because it’s just too expensive. So, what did we come across last year? The Sill. Big new visitor centre, and replaced Youth Hostel at Twice Brewed. Just below Steel Rigg, best bit of Wall in area. Huge parking spaces, dwarfed our little MH, number plate recognition system, toilets, showers, shop, nice cafe, all on site. A fabulous overnight stop, mid way along Wall. But no overnight parking other than for YH patrons. We registered our thoughts with onsite staff, who are also concerned at lack of sites in area. If more folks do this, then it’s a custom set up that only needs a tap and a waste outside, which to be honest might already be in place. A true win win for National Park, and visitors. 

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moulesy replied on 10/03/2019 15:12

Posted on 10/03/2019 15:12

"Most CL/CS have been okay a few excellent and some bad.  I lived on one for six months in our Swift around 2006."

Really? 6 months on a CL? How did you wangle that? laughing

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Posted on 10/03/2019 14:36 by ATDel

Well well, quoting Silves, we were at Silves by the castle in January, nice aire but if you think that is better than a club site for facilities and space you need to start taking more water with it. About 6 feet between vans not 6m and the toiltet block, oh no its a shower for a euro no toilet. Please dont insult my little bit of intelligence as once again you have blown your argument out of the water. You must try harder 

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Posted on 10/03/2019 15:12 by moulesy

"Most CL/CS have been okay a few excellent and some bad.  I lived on one for six months in our Swift around 2006."

Really? 6 months on a CL? How did you wangle that? laughing

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Takethedogalong replied on 10/03/2019 15:46

Posted on 10/03/2019 15:00 by

Obviously not that patiently as you felt the need for a reminder.  

In short over the many years we have been camping we have used dozens if not more.  Really I have no idea how many as we don't keep records of our trips (or mine and others posts on CT 😙) Most CL/CS have been okay a few excellent and some bad.  I lived on one for six months in our Swift around 2006.

Posted on 10/03/2019 15:46

Didn’t mean to pester. Just wondered if you used them as I couldn’t recall you ever mentioning one. Do you use them with your MH now? Reason for asking is we use a lot and find they make UK touring very easy and economic.

replied on 10/03/2019 15:56

Posted on 10/03/2019 15:13 by

I have never even mentioned space, but if you feel that mentioning it then being critical about it helps your case feel free.  Of course you chose the least attractive of the three sites and we have our own facilities. In any event if you don't like Aires then why use them?

Posted on 10/03/2019 15:56

I think that although you didn't mention space you did say how much better these particular aires were than CC sites. I suppose Kev assumed that you meant that they were reasonably spaced and had some reasonable facilities.

If not then what, other than the fact that they are across the water or reasonably priced makes them way better DD? I admit that I am now confused. 

Kev didn't say that he did not like them and he may well say why he used this one he referred to

ATDel replied on 10/03/2019 16:16

Posted on 10/03/2019 15:13 by

I have never even mentioned space, but if you feel that mentioning it then being critical about it helps your case feel free.  Of course you chose the least attractive of the three sites and we have our own facilities. In any event if you don't like Aires then why use them?

Posted on 10/03/2019 16:16

I did to which you replied.

I havent said I don’t like Aires all I was nearly doing was replying to your comment that the aires in Silves were better than camc sites, prey tell how are they, little facilities, little space and little character. Please don’t twist my posts, reread if you have to, you were the one who said the aires in Spain were better than camc sites, you were the one who said all 3 aires in Silves were better than camc sites, I just said they weren’t. 

The problem you got is you have posted so much you can’t remember what your saying or who sad what. Keep up man

JVB66 replied on 10/03/2019 16:23

Posted on 10/03/2019 16:16 by ATDel

I did to which you replied.

I havent said I don’t like Aires all I was nearly doing was replying to your comment that the aires in Silves were better than camc sites, prey tell how are they, little facilities, little space and little character. Please don’t twist my posts, reread if you have to, you were the one who said the aires in Spain were better than camc sites, you were the one who said all 3 aires in Silves were better than camc sites, I just said they weren’t. 

The problem you got is you have posted so much you can’t remember what your saying or who sad what. Keep up man

Posted on 10/03/2019 16:23

You will note that the posts will also be skewed to try to "ammend "the current post in the hope it deviates without being noticedwink

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Posted on 10/03/2019 15:46 by Takethedogalong

Didn’t mean to pester. Just wondered if you used them as I couldn’t recall you ever mentioning one. Do you use them with your MH now? Reason for asking is we use a lot and find they make UK touring very easy and economic.

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