So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

moulesy replied on 06/03/2019 08:18

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:18

Ooh, I think you might have missed my 3 questions at the top of the previous page, BB! wink

Any chance of an answer to any of them? It's not like you to be so reticent!

JVB66 replied on 06/03/2019 08:27

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:27

Reticent or hoping that your Questions will get "missed" as seems some find is better than realising that they cannot come up with a real alternativewink

replied on 06/03/2019 08:46

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:18 by moulesy

Ooh, I think you might have missed my 3 questions at the top of the previous page, BB! wink

Any chance of an answer to any of them? It's not like you to be so reticent!

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:46

It's not like you to be so reticent!

Did I note a hint of ironic sarcasm there? 

cyberyacht replied on 06/03/2019 08:59

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:59

This thread is degenerating into an "us" and "them" slanging match. Provision for MH's should be regarded as no different to the provision of play areas/ dog walks. I haven't seen any complaint that the provision of these is regarded as discriminatory notwithstanding they are only for a subset of the membership.

replied on 06/03/2019 09:01

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:59 by cyberyacht

This thread is degenerating into an "us" and "them" slanging match. Provision for MH's should be regarded as no different to the provision of play areas/ dog walks. I haven't seen any complaint that the provision of these is regarded as discriminatory notwithstanding they are only for a subset of the membership.

Posted on 06/03/2019 09:01

The provision for motorhomes is already in place. Granted some disposal points need upgrades I suspect.

JayOutdoors replied on 06/03/2019 09:05

Posted on 06/03/2019 09:05

Just a personal observation of this discussion and I admit I have not read every post -  It appears that some posting here suggesting the club provide non facility pitches for them at a reduced rate (OP describes them as Nightstops) are able to enjoy their time away by touring at reduced rates attending rallies in Europe and the UK and using THS sites (possibly provided by CMC and/or CCC).  As said there are providers out there in the UK who already offer “Nightstop” type facilities.   I personally would not advocate the club providing a specific facility that could only be used by one type of leisure outfit.

Tinwheeler replied on 06/03/2019 09:14

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:59 by cyberyacht

This thread is degenerating into an "us" and "them" slanging match. Provision for MH's should be regarded as no different to the provision of play areas/ dog walks. I haven't seen any complaint that the provision of these is regarded as discriminatory notwithstanding they are only for a subset of the membership.

Posted on 06/03/2019 09:14

See my second post on page1, CY. 

The provision of play areas, dog walks and so on is for use by all, not just motorhomers. The financial outlay of these is a far cry from the club setting up a chain of nighthalts intended only for motorhomes. 

Us and them? Hardly. You and I both have MHs. 

Cornersteady replied on 06/03/2019 09:23

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:59 by cyberyacht

This thread is degenerating into an "us" and "them" slanging match. Provision for MH's should be regarded as no different to the provision of play areas/ dog walks. I haven't seen any complaint that the provision of these is regarded as discriminatory notwithstanding they are only for a subset of the membership.

Posted on 06/03/2019 09:23

I had children who used the play area, there are campers who may not need the area now but could do in the future, I don't have a dog but may have one in the future and then could use it. Some have showers in their outfits and don't use the shower block but could. I have never ever used the veg prep area but could do. The laundry room is there if you want to use it.

Get the idea they are open to all and people see that others on site might want to use them and are not so selfish as to complain about them

BUT, these MH only pitches could only be used by MH.

Post edit - snap again TW

replied on 06/03/2019 09:26

Posted on 06/03/2019 09:14 by Tinwheeler

See my second post on page1, CY. 

The provision of play areas, dog walks and so on is for use by all, not just motorhomers. The financial outlay of these is a far cry from the club setting up a chain of nighthalts intended only for motorhomes. 

Us and them? Hardly. You and I both have MHs. 

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JVB66 replied on 06/03/2019 09:28

Posted on 06/03/2019 08:59 by cyberyacht

This thread is degenerating into an "us" and "them" slanging match. Provision for MH's should be regarded as no different to the provision of play areas/ dog walks. I haven't seen any complaint that the provision of these is regarded as discriminatory notwithstanding they are only for a subset of the membership.

Posted on 06/03/2019 09:28

I did not realise that play areas and dog walks were only for tuggers,but then the money spent to cater for badly designed  and inadequate waste outlets on motor caravans is not for one subsetsurprisedwink

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