So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 16/03/2019 18:39

Posted on 16/03/2019 18:10 by cyberyacht

We aren't talking about overnight here, merely replenishment of water and dumping of waste for a fee. Explain how that inconveniences others.

Posted on 16/03/2019 18:39

Simple. By blocking up the MHSPs where queues are often formed by people who have paid to use the whole site - pitch, loos and service points.

JVB66 replied on 16/03/2019 18:50

Posted on 16/03/2019 12:56 by Navigateur

Here is the way to get free drop and fill.

  1. Turn up at the barrier in your motor caravan and go into the office to see the warden.
  2. Say that you are staying nearby but think you would like to stay on that site in future.
  3. Ask to drive round to have a look.  Can't walk round because of gammy leg.
  4. Once in, do one loop and stop at the "facility".
  5. Job done!

Posted on 16/03/2019 18:50

And you think that site staff are not aware of this worn out try onwink

Tinwheeler replied on 16/03/2019 18:55

Posted on 16/03/2019 18:55

To think some decried the idea that members couldn’t be trusted not to plug into EHU if they’d opted out! 😤

replied on 16/03/2019 19:08

Posted on 16/03/2019 18:10 by cyberyacht

We aren't talking about overnight here, merely replenishment of water and dumping of waste for a fee. Explain how that inconveniences others.

Posted on 16/03/2019 19:08

If somebody has stayed somewhere with inadequate facilities for a few days they are welcome to book a CC pitch and can then use the facilities. Pretty simple really. 

 

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 19:10

Posted on 16/03/2019 18:10 by cyberyacht

We aren't talking about overnight here, merely replenishment of water and dumping of waste for a fee. Explain how that inconveniences others.

Posted on 16/03/2019 19:10

For one because people who have actually paid to stop there legally will find they cannot use the facilities for those 'travellers'.

It could also encourage wild camping which the club does not approve of, and not just because of loss of income. 

JayOutdoors replied on 16/03/2019 19:38

Posted on 16/03/2019 08:13 by cyberyacht

Whilst there may be valid reasons why Night Stop facilities would be impractical, I find it surprising that the Club have been somewhat steadfast in its reluctance to provide "fill and drop" access if it really does want to be an all embracing club.

Posted on 16/03/2019 19:38

Most motorhomes appear to ‘fill and drop’ before leaving the site they are staying at. Personally, I feel in order to enjoy touring choosing sites according to facilities you may need at any particular time is all that is needed.

mickysf replied on 16/03/2019 20:11

Posted on 16/03/2019 20:11

I have some concerns about 'drop & fill'. Firstly I personally am not in favour of those full time 'wild campers' who I'm sure would relish the opportunity to at least fill. I've seen first hand that some of these folk just dump anywhere and it's not pleasant. Secondly, would this facility only be available to members and then what about those sites which actively advertise non members welcome and everyone welcome on their entrance signs? 

 

DustyRhoades replied on 16/03/2019 22:22

Posted on 16/03/2019 20:11 by mickysf

I have some concerns about 'drop & fill'. Firstly I personally am not in favour of those full time 'wild campers' who I'm sure would relish the opportunity to at least fill. I've seen first hand that some of these folk just dump anywhere and it's not pleasant. Secondly, would this facility only be available to members and then what about those sites which actively advertise non members welcome and everyone welcome on their entrance signs? 

 

Posted on 16/03/2019 22:22

You'll just have to charge them the £12 non member fee then won't you.

tongue-out

mickysf replied on 16/03/2019 22:38

Posted on 16/03/2019 22:22 by DustyRhoades

You'll just have to charge them the £12 non member fee then won't you.

tongue-out

Posted on 16/03/2019 22:38

Better still, don't offer them the opportunity. Don't need them blocking the roads, occupying staff time and hogging service points at all for little reward. Now if they join they can of course visit for a night, pay the same as us all and then drop and fill. They can also leave whenever they like too.

replied on 16/03/2019 22:50

Posted on 16/03/2019 22:50

Sounds both reasonable and equitable to me Micky

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