Caravan Club Non Insurance Policy

replied on 01/11/2019 22:56

Posted on 01/11/2019 22:56

A simple question. As the caravan club no longer offer caravan insurance as such what suggestions for a new insurer that does.

Cornersteady replied on 09/11/2019 18:21

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:05 by

Provided you abide by the terms of the contract the payment will be made, if it is not it can be contested through the insurance ombudsman service at no charge to you,.  CC Ltd can decline to payout regardless and your only recourse is through the courts at probably considerable costs.  It is beyond my understanding why anyone would take such a gamble to save a few pounds.

CC Ltd has reserves of around £20m, a few large claims will quickly absorb that and then the tendency will be to reject claims "at their descretion".  Insurance companies reinsure elsewhere; I believe that is not an option for a mutual.  

 

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:21

Indeed, but you made it sound like payment was automatic:

Every insurance I have ever read says words to the effect that:

We will pay all sums (up to the amount stated in the cover) which you become legally liable to pay as compensation for death or injury to, or damage to the property of, any Third Party 

Because you have been found legally liable the insurance WILL pay out.

I am glad you now accept this is not so, it is a shame you missed that out in your fear factor story DD

Additionally your fear factor story: Imagine a situation where you and your uncoupled caravan is the cause of an accident...which would leave you to have to pay yourself

scenario cannot happen can it, it? As no policy covers you while towing? Therefore you were simply scare mongeringundecided

I know you don't like the club and take all possible opportunists to have a go but this last one is even worse (as it is using fear to get your 'go' across) than the suggestion that the club was avoiding the law regarding HMRC and paying tax.

 

CC Ltd has reserves of around £20m, a few large claims will quickly absorb...

Once again your are trying to scare monger, did you not read Ro's post about the club having insurance to deal with this unlikely scenario? Perhaps you missed that DD?

Cornersteady replied on 09/11/2019 18:28

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:16 by

 What liability could occur from a stationary caravan on site, I suppose a fire perhaps? 

I researched case law on this many years ago. The owner of the caravan that caused the damage to adjacent caravans is not liable unless he can be shown to be negligent. The same applies to houses and motor cars andone would assume boats also. If your caravan is regularly serviced then it is very difficult/impossible to show negligence on your part. Maybe if you added wiring and did not get a new cert it could be possible but difficult in the extreme. 

 

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:28

so (idle speculation) apart from purposefully starting a fire when would the third party liability be employed or useful?

I can only think of just before towing the caravan runs away and hits another? But even then?

replied on 09/11/2019 18:29

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:17 by

I fully expected you to begin nit picking, anything to defend CC Ltd. wink

If a caravan becomes detached whilst towing the third party liability is picked up by the tug cover, assuming the correct insurance is in place. 

I'm certainly not going to speculate what could happen on site, but have fun if you wish. 

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replied on 09/11/2019 18:33

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:17 by

I fully expected you to begin nit picking, anything to defend CC Ltd. wink

If a caravan becomes detached whilst towing the third party liability is picked up by the tug cover, assuming the correct insurance is in place. 

I'm certainly not going to speculate what could happen on site, but have fun if you wish. 

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:33

I have zero concern regarding this despite having seen runaways on three occasions when caravan unhitched on site. I either move caravan into position with car and line up Alko when motor mover U/S- A right pain and put brake on, Or use mover which stays engaged until caravan fully pitched. 

Cornersteady replied on 09/11/2019 18:37

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:29 by

On my first towing trip ever my father had lent me his car and caravan (a more trusting soul than me) and first stop was a site on the banks of the Dee in Chester. We uncoupled it on a slope and it was only with the rapid assistance of other campers that it didn't end up in the Dee as it ran across the field. What would have been even worse than loosing Dads van in the river though would have been if it injured anyone on its way, I cant see any motor insurance covering that.

However back to Alan's post,  I have a new van of a brand very attractive to thieves sitting in the drive and anyone who would rely on the discretion of this or any other organization as to whether they MAY cover its theft or loss is a bigger fool than I thought.

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:37

again no need to be so rude AD, you have made your decision no has called it foolish, you are happy and we respect it, but why can you not give others the same respect?

replied on 09/11/2019 18:42

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:21 by Cornersteady

Indeed, but you made it sound like payment was automatic:

Every insurance I have ever read says words to the effect that:

We will pay all sums (up to the amount stated in the cover) which you become legally liable to pay as compensation for death or injury to, or damage to the property of, any Third Party 

Because you have been found legally liable the insurance WILL pay out.

I am glad you now accept this is not so, it is a shame you missed that out in your fear factor story DD

Additionally your fear factor story: Imagine a situation where you and your uncoupled caravan is the cause of an accident...which would leave you to have to pay yourself

scenario cannot happen can it, it? As no policy covers you while towing? Therefore you were simply scare mongeringundecided

I know you don't like the club and take all possible opportunists to have a go but this last one is even worse (as it is using fear to get your 'go' across) than the suggestion that the club was avoiding the law regarding HMRC and paying tax.

 

CC Ltd has reserves of around £20m, a few large claims will quickly absorb...

Once again your are trying to scare monger, did you not read Ro's post about the club having insurance to deal with this unlikely scenario? Perhaps you missed that DD?

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:42

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replied on 09/11/2019 18:43

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:37 by Cornersteady

again no need to be so rude AD, you have made your decision no has called it foolish, you are happy and we respect it, but why can you not give others the same respect?

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:43

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Cornersteady replied on 09/11/2019 18:53

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:43 by

Respect has to be earned

 

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:53

I think that shows a lot about you. I was talking about respect for your choice and asking for the same respect back. I always show respect to other's decisions (even if I think they are wrong) and do not insult that decision or them, no matter what or where as I believe they have made them in their best interests.  Just me I suppose, but OT.

Cornersteady replied on 09/11/2019 18:56

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:42 by

Once again your are trying to scare monger, did you not read Ro's post about the club having insurance to deal with this unlikely scenario? Perhaps you missed that DD?

I suggest that you read the actual cover terms and conditions rather than rely on words of comfort from Ro, et al.  If you do you may see that the Builders Insurance only kicks in if CC Ltd becomes unable to meet its obligations, not if in its sole discretion it decides not to pay.    

Posted on 09/11/2019 18:56

Well I'd rather believe Ro's printed words than you. I believe you are nit picking DD. And again simple scare mongering. no need at all.   .

No more from me as I've shown enough of the your disingenuous or rather misleading posts. And it's getting off topic. ET has his insurance.

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