Would It Work ? – Open for sensible debate.

JohnM20 replied on 18/07/2017 16:50

Posted on 18/07/2017 16:50

With so many people complaining about the frenzied booking when the system opens in early December I thought I would try to suggest a solution for those not able to book so early due to work or other restrictions. Whilst I don’t fall foul of the system so much now, I have done in the past when works holiday dates could not be booked until well into the new year and especially when trying to include a weekend. 

Would it work if every site allowed only 50% of their pitches to be booked at any time from the December booking date with the remaining 50% not being bookable until no more than 2 months before the planned visit date?  Most people, I think, should be able to work around this for planned main holidays. This should accommodate those that must fully book their year in advance and those that cannot.

 I’m sure, (he says, tongue firmly in cheek), that the IT department could tweek the online booking program to accommodate this.

 Whether it is a workable solution I don’t know, it’s just a germ of an idea to solve what is a problem for many members but remains fair to all. There may be an obvious reason why it wouldn’t work that is staring me in the face but I haven’t seen it. I’m sure someone will point it out if there is one.

 Contrary to what some are against and reject out of hand, I think deposits would be a good idea. I cannot understand why some people are so against them unless they are seriously worried about losing them. The site fees have to be paid at some time so why not spread the cost?  There are many things in life that require a deposit, caravans and motorhomes being a good example.

 With the current system there must be some members who book very early but know that they may well change their mind closer to the date, although I doubt that any would admit to this. I personally know one couple who regularly cancel bookings, not necessarily at the last minute but nonetheless may have deprived someone else from being able to book and they have to consequently look for an alternative site. Non-refundable deposits would reduce this sort of behaviour I believe.

 I guess I will receive some flak but it would be nice to have a sensible debate.

GodivaNige replied on 30/07/2017 08:43

Posted on 30/07/2017 08:43

So, could the Club rewrite their booking system to allow the current way of doing things for a certain percentage of pitches on a site, lets say 80%, with the remaining 20% of pitches unavailable to anyone not booking for more than 3 nights. If all of the 20% pitches are not taken after a cutoff point, for example 14 days, then those pitches revert to being open for all.

Yes, complicated for a software developer, but not impossible.

Just throwing ideas out there for debate, not deliberately looking to upset anyone wink

eurortraveller replied on 30/07/2017 08:59

Posted on 30/07/2017 08:59

Out of the total number of Club sites - is it 150 - how many have vacancies on 13 August 2017 ?  146.  Setting up ever more elaborate booking schemes seems a bit unnecessary. Just phone and go. 

GodivaNige replied on 30/07/2017 09:16

Posted on 30/07/2017 08:59 by eurortraveller

Out of the total number of Club sites - is it 150 - how many have vacancies on 13 August 2017 ?  146.  Setting up ever more elaborate booking schemes seems a bit unnecessary. Just phone and go. 

Posted on 30/07/2017 09:16

Booked across that weekend 4 months ago, a commercial AO site for 5 nights.

The site I'm in at is fully booked over that weekend and everyone who has booked it, has paid for it, in full, 6 weeks ago.

 

John4703 replied on 05/12/2017 21:07

Posted on 05/12/2017 21:07

I wonder why we can't simply have a rolling system.  Make it possible to book up to 15 months in advance rather than setting one day for bookings to open.

The club must plan any closures for maintenance well in advance so 15 months would be reasonable.

I am easy regarding deposits, if I book with the other club I pay a deposit and can't change the booking on line.  I like the fact that I can change a CMC booking on line, I've just extended my stay in York next month.  If taking a deposit meant less cancellations and more space for me then go for it. 

Tinwheeler replied on 05/12/2017 21:50

Posted on 05/12/2017 21:50

Looking at it from the site operator's point of view, I can’t see the club being happy to have 50% of pitches with a big question mark hanging over them. Will they let or will they stay empty?

A business needs more certainty as to the likely take up of what's on offer.

Anyway, we're told the system is already being looked at for next year.

Deposits I'm not really bothered about but I feel there is likely a huge myth surrounding bookings and cancellations and Moulesy makes some good points on the subject.

We're in danger of going round in circles again here.

Tinwheeler replied on 05/12/2017 21:55

Posted on 05/12/2017 21:07 by John4703

I wonder why we can't simply have a rolling system.  Make it possible to book up to 15 months in advance rather than setting one day for bookings to open.

The club must plan any closures for maintenance well in advance so 15 months would be reasonable.

I am easy regarding deposits, if I book with the other club I pay a deposit and can't change the booking on line.  I like the fact that I can change a CMC booking on line, I've just extended my stay in York next month.  If taking a deposit meant less cancellations and more space for me then go for it. 

Posted on 05/12/2017 21:55

"If taking a deposit meant less cancellations and more space for me then go for it."

As long as you're alright, John, that’s fine. The rest of us can go whistle.

Sometimes it’s really hard to believe that we're fellow members of the same club. yell

 

John4703 replied on 07/12/2017 12:35

Posted on 05/12/2017 21:55 by Tinwheeler

"If taking a deposit meant less cancellations and more space for me then go for it."

As long as you're alright, John, that’s fine. The rest of us can go whistle.

Sometimes it’s really hard to believe that we're fellow members of the same club. yell

 

Posted on 07/12/2017 12:35

I was meaning more space for everyone Tinwheeler not just me.  I have heard of people booking several sites and then cancelling most of them at the last minute.  That leaves site booked for months and then empty spaces at the last minute.  

A deposit might reduce the number of last minute cancellations and make it easier for everyone to book. 

replied on 07/12/2017 12:44

Posted on 07/12/2017 12:44

At this time of year when people suggest deposits I can only think of 'Turkeys and Christmas'.

Kennine replied on 07/12/2017 12:58

Posted on 07/12/2017 12:58

Why not just pay for your holiday when you book it. You've got to pay anyway so why not then.  It would certainly curtail the speculative bookers and those who wait to see what the weather's going to be and cancel. 

cool

moulesy replied on 07/12/2017 13:01

Posted on 07/12/2017 13:01

" I have heard of people booking several sites and then cancelling most of them at the last minute.  That leaves site booked for months and then empty spaces at the last minute.  "

 

I've read that same claim many times over the years but never seen or heard anyone actually admitting to doing it. It seems to crop up every year around this time! undecided

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