What has happened

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember many people complaining about the old forum which worked well enough as this one does for me. Is this not a case of be careful what you wish for?

Absolutely right MF. The folk complaining about this site are pretty much the same as those who spent so much energy complaining about the old one! At the end of the day, I think any reasonable view would be that it's just a forum and certainly not worth all the angst some seem to experience.

The most important role of the CC is surely to maintain it's sites as a welcoming place for all members and to support CL owners in providing the facilities so many of us enjoy. Put beside that the forum is a relatively unimportant factor.

BB, never let fact stand in the way of your posts eh? accusations of 'trolling you wrote

Please find where I or anyone else has accused anyone of trolling? Let me save you the trouble;

It's getting to be troll like behaviour scattered all over the place. (note the getting to be)

Who is being accused?

Like you I think they like complaining and trolling, no other explanation fits? does it?  (Please note the no other explanation fits and question mark)

So who is being accused?

well Corners, it aint difficult....

so, the writing of 'troll like behaviour' and 'they like complaining and trolling' doesnt mean this 'trolling' being done by 'someone' on CT?

in which case youve accused 'someone' of trolling.

weaseling around your words wont make it any different....

the middle and both ends of this debacle is that CC has made a real balls up with this upgrade and there are a few on CT who understand a bit about delivering IT projects successfully and have raised question marks about the lack of process discipline, especially the lack of testing, leaving customers to pick up the pieces.

i realise that there are also a group of people for whom the CC can do no wrong, whatever it is they choose to do....

so, lets just differ.....i think this is a really, truly poor effort, perhaps you think its fine....

what ever i say wont change your view, nor what you say will change mine.

lets just leave it at that....

have a lovely day

I find the bickering among members somewhat bemusing. Over the past week the availability of "new posts" information has appeared and disappeared with almost clockwork regularity. The apparent inability to code properly for cookies to present this information suggests to me that the team responsible for this website are less than competent.

Whether the provision of a forum is important or not is not relevant. It is the competence of the people employed by CC to perform a particular task that is the issue here. Would we be happy if those responsible for financial matters showed a similar level of incompetence?

Well said BB and CY....sadly I think many members assume that this site is the industry standard and don't actually use other forums.

I too have begged to differ with the few who don't actually know what Trolling is but get fairly close!