Excessive site fees

peddim replied on 15/04/2016 11:45

Posted on 15/04/2016 11:45

Just returned from Chester Fair Oaks site, one night, £31.30 !!, I nearly choked on my dentures, It was our first trip out this year, only able to book something last minute.Ok, apparently, our over night stay was classed as still in  the 'High' season, but £31.30 per night (two adults) to stay in my own caravan is ridiculous. The club is in danger of  killing the goose that layed the golden egg. it's easy sometimes to forget that we have also paid a membership fee for the privilege of being charged so much.

Lansdorf replied on 26/07/2016 19:29

Posted on 26/07/2016 19:29

Some interesting and well put points of view in this discussion. I would be interested to know how the CC arrives at it's price structure which varies greatly from site to site. From looking at the the published site tariffs I can only assume that it is based on the principle of "charge the most for the most popular at any given point on the calendar". The better deals being offered on the less popular sites would be subsidised by the premiums from the popular sites. If this is the case then it sounds like a logical business model!!! It's worth looking at the published tariff to get an overall view of the pricing. http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/18915091/2016_site_prices_and_opening_dates10-12.pdf

Wildwood replied on 27/07/2016 20:29

Posted on 27/07/2016 20:29

There are various components to the price but it does not seem that they charge the most the market will stand like some commercial sites. Several book up or near that as soon as booking opens so clearly these prize sites could stand even higher rates.

When costing various things need to be looked at apart from the desirability of the site. City locations are always going to be more expensive on rent, council tax etc and these are major differences to out of the way country sites. You will also find leases have rent reviews at intervals of more than a year. A site will have the same rent for say five years and you then get five years increases in one go so costs rocket.

You will also get a variation in the number of pitches per warden. You get small sites with one couple but at a certain level it jumps to two pairs. Essentially that jump means one pitch doubles wardens costs so hits prices.

The various variations does affect prices although some account has to be taken of desirability so the whole thing is a complex calculation and getting it wrong could be a disaster.

JVB66 replied on 27/07/2016 20:43

Posted on 27/07/2016 20:43

There are various components to the price but it does not seem that they charge the most the market will stand like some commercial sites. Several book up or near that as soon as booking opens so clearly these prize sites could stand even higher rates.

When costing various things need to be looked at apart from the desirability of the site. City locations are always going to be more expensive on rent, council tax etc and these are major differences to out of the way country sites. You will also find leases have rent reviews at intervals of more than a year. A site will have the same rent for say five years and you then get five years increases in one go so costs rocket.

You will also get a variation in the number of pitches per warden. You get small sites with one couple but at a certain level it jumps to two pairs. Essentially that jump means one pitch doubles wardens costs so hits prices.

The various variations does affect prices although some account has to be taken of desirability so the whole thing is a complex calculation and getting it wrong could be a disaster.

.Excellent balanced post that says a lot about cost that at time is not appreciated Cool

Cornersteady replied on 27/07/2016 20:44

Posted on 27/07/2016 20:44

There are various components to the price but it does not seem that they charge the most the market will stand like some commercial sites. Several book up or near that as soon as booking opens so clearly these prize sites could stand even higher rates.

When costing various things need to be looked at apart from the desirability of the site. City locations are always going to be more expensive on rent, council tax etc and these are major differences to out of the way country sites. You will also find leases have rent reviews at intervals of more than a year. A site will have the same rent for say five years and you then get five years increases in one go so costs rocket.

You will also get a variation in the number of pitches per warden. You get small sites with one couple but at a certain level it jumps to two pairs. Essentially that jump means one pitch doubles wardens costs so hits prices.

The various variations does affect prices although some account has to be taken of desirability so the whole thing is a complex calculation and getting it wrong could be a disaster.

.Excellent balanced post that says a lot about cost that at time is not appreciated Cool

+1

Oneputt replied on 27/07/2016 21:45

Posted on 27/07/2016 21:45

There are various components to the price but it does not seem that they charge the most the market will stand like some commercial sites. Several book up or near that as soon as booking opens so clearly these prize sites could stand even higher rates.

When costing various things need to be looked at apart from the desirability of the site. City locations are always going to be more expensive on rent, council tax etc and these are major differences to out of the way country sites. You will also find leases have rent reviews at intervals of more than a year. A site will have the same rent for say five years and you then get five years increases in one go so costs rocket.

You will also get a variation in the number of pitches per warden. You get small sites with one couple but at a certain level it jumps to two pairs. Essentially that jump means one pitch doubles wardens costs so hits prices.

The various variations does affect prices although some account has to be taken of desirability so the whole thing is a complex calculation and getting it wrong could be a disaster.

.Excellent balanced post that says a lot about cost that at time is not appreciated Cool

+1

What you say has some merit but according to the 2014 CC approved accounts the sites part of the business made a profit of £1.5 million so this should really mean that the CC doesn't need to be quite so grasping by disadvantaging hard working families during the school holiday periods with 40% price hikes

replied on 27/07/2016 21:51

Posted on 27/07/2016 21:51

I thought that during the School hols the sites are reasonably priced compared to many commercial sites.

SteveL replied on 27/07/2016 23:16

Posted on 27/07/2016 23:16

I don't suppose 1.5 million goes that far when one looks at providing more and upgrading existing sites.

replied on 27/07/2016 23:59

Posted on 27/07/2016 23:59

Wit hthe number of sites that the CC has £1.5 million is not a lot to maintain and improve. Particularly if one intends to expand the network

Fisherman replied on 28/07/2016 15:48

Posted on 28/07/2016 15:48

Money well spent? or another waste by the £90/100K per annum directors.

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