Excessive site fees

peddim replied on 15/04/2016 11:45

Posted on 15/04/2016 11:45

Just returned from Chester Fair Oaks site, one night, £31.30 !!, I nearly choked on my dentures, It was our first trip out this year, only able to book something last minute.Ok, apparently, our over night stay was classed as still in  the 'High' season, but £31.30 per night (two adults) to stay in my own caravan is ridiculous. The club is in danger of  killing the goose that layed the golden egg. it's easy sometimes to forget that we have also paid a membership fee for the privilege of being charged so much.

Surfer replied on 16/04/2016 07:53

Posted on 16/04/2016 07:53

 The club is in business to make an operating profit which can then be used to invest in new facilities and update existing ones.

If you lowered the cost of staying at sites then there would be no profit, no investment and I am sure that the same posters would complaint that the facilities were not up to the standard required.

Bottom line, if you don't want to pay the pitch fee don't go to the site but find somewhere else cheaper.

We are paying for the CC buying Alan Rogers without the consent of CC members and they are doing this by hiking up pitch fees.  Of course many people are quite happy to allow the club to trample over them and hike up fees. 

Why are so many commercial sites profitable who are charging lower fees and they do not have to resort to selling all sorts of insurance etc?  Many of these commercial sites are on par with CC sites. 

No one is complaining about the actual sites or wardens, but the fees for a night's stay can be rather high in comparison especialy if you use the facilities in your caravan.  No wonder many of us prefer to use CLs!

davehurst replied on 16/04/2016 08:22

Posted on 16/04/2016 08:22

Well said Surfer. Far too many people seem happy to pay these fee's. I wonder what the prices are going to be like in 5 years time. Assuming they keep the price Hike's it may well drive members away and stop new members from joining. Personally i wouldn'y pay more than £25 for any site, no matter what time of year.

MichaelT replied on 16/04/2016 09:11

Posted on 16/04/2016 09:11

 The club is in business to make an operating profit which can then be used to invest in new facilities and update existing ones.

If you lowered the cost of staying at sites then there would be no profit, no investment and I am sure that the same posters would complaint that the facilities were not up to the standard required.

Bottom line, if you don't want to pay the pitch fee don't go to the site but find somewhere else cheaper.

We are paying for the CC buying Alan Rogers without the consent of CC members and they are doing this by hiking up pitch fees.  Of course many people are quite happy to allow the club to trample over them and hike up fees. 

Why are so many commercial sites profitable who are charging lower fees and they do not have to resort to selling all sorts of insurance etc?  Many of these commercial sites are on par with CC sites. 

No one is complaining about the actual sites or wardens, but the fees for a night's stay can be rather high in comparison especialy if you use the facilities in your caravan.  No wonder many of us prefer to use CLs!

Write your comments here...so if you prefer to use cl why complain on here it's like me complaining about the cost of dog food and not having a dog! 

Surfer replied on 16/04/2016 09:28

Posted on 16/04/2016 09:28

 Write your comments here...so if you prefer to use cl why complain on here it's like me complaining about the cost of dog food and not having a dog! 

ther eis a possibility that you may not understand or it has not occured to you.  If the CC made their fees more reasonable then maybe we could use their sites especially during the week.  We have just cancelled a 4 night stay on CC sites as other nearby sites were a lot cheaper savings us in the vicinity of £30 or more.

Many commercial sites can offer discounts for stays for several days or longer, but not the CC.  Why not?  I am guessing it is because many sites are booked full at weekends preventing many people from staying for 6 or more days. 

These same sites may have low occupancy during the week so the CC need high prices to jusitify the low occupancy during the week.

thebroons replied on 16/04/2016 10:35

Posted on 16/04/2016 10:35

 The club is in business to make an operating profit which can then be used to invest in new facilities and update existing ones.

If you lowered the cost of staying at sites then there would be no profit, no investment and I am sure that the same posters would complaint that the facilities were not up to the standard required.

Bottom line, if you don't want to pay the pitch fee don't go to the site but find somewhere else cheaper.

If enough members did decide to find somewhere cheaper there would still be no profit or investment. 

Of course if they choose to reduce the pitch fee which in turn attracts more users then profits rise and members are happy. Win win. 

JayEss replied on 16/04/2016 10:48

Posted on 16/04/2016 10:48

I can't find it now but I seem to remember that prices were 'held' or subject to a small increase last season (obviously to coincide with fairly robust increases in the other club)

As is always the case last years 'skipped' increase seems to have been added to this year's prices. 

If it's too much the bookings will be down and prices will be 'held' with much fanfare next year. 

young thomas replied on 16/04/2016 10:51

Posted on 16/04/2016 10:51

 The club is in business to make an operating profit which can then be used to invest in new facilities and update existing ones.

If you lowered the cost of staying at sites then there would be no profit, no investment and I am sure that the same posters would complaint that the facilities were not up to the standard required.

Bottom line, if you don't want to pay the pitch fee don't go to the site but find somewhere else cheaper.

If enough members did decide to find somewhere cheaper there would still be no profit or investment. 

Of course if they choose to reduce the pitch fee which in turn attracts more users then profits rise and members are happy. Win win. 

as highlighed above, by Broons....the issue is that, at weekends, the club sites are racked with vans....families, weekenders etc....and (in theory) prices could rise, though may not be desirable....

however, during the week (sun-thurs) there are plenty of pitches available (read deserted sites) mainly (imho) due to those midweek prices being way out of kilter with other operations vying for the same business....

these prices could definitely be lowered (at least as a trial....though goodness knows how long this would have to run for cc to make a decision.....book a HS anyone??) encouraging those who 'haven/sandyballs/commercial' to make use of these unused places...

...but £20 wont do it....it needs to be close to a tenner (poss £12 tops) to get customers' attention....

Spriddler replied on 16/04/2016 12:32

Posted on 16/04/2016 12:32

 

...but £20 wont do it....it needs to be close to a tenner (poss £12 tops) to get customers' attention....

Hmm, that wouldn't please CL owners. I love CLs and would be sorry if some decided to close down if their (reasonable) pricing came under pressure.

Takethedogalong replied on 16/04/2016 13:17

Posted on 16/04/2016 13:17

Just had a look at some of the bookings for the big seaside sites: Looe, Yellowcraig, Incleborough, Freshwater East, Scarborough. Haven't bothered with serviced pitches, as there aren't that many on each site really, but the bookings overall during July and August are showing pitches available at all the sites, for most days, with the exception of FE. (This is closed until late July for refurbishment, so perhaps is showing a different pattern to usual). Would interesting to know just how many pitches are actually booked. I checked prices on a couple of the sites, and based on two adults and two children, looking at £33+ per night.

SteveL replied on 16/04/2016 13:26

Posted on 16/04/2016 13:26

 

...but £20 wont do it....it needs to be close to a tenner (poss £12 tops) to get customers' attention....

The trouble is because more vans use more consumables, you need significantly more pitches occupied to make a difference.

For instance 10 vans at £20 using £3 of consumables each brings in £170. However 20 vans at £12 using £3 of consumables brings in £180. So you need to double the occupancy to make a small extra profit. Wether doubling the occupancy midweek is likely, is open for debate.

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