Dynamic pricing to be introduced

replied on 09/02/2023 14:34

Posted on 09/02/2023 14:34


Apparently dynamic pricing is to be rolled out to all UK campsites during 2023.

Which means that those that book up to a year ahead will be able to take advantage of the lowest prices.

Those who for whatever reason cannot commit to booking so far in advance will be penalised if they wish to book closer to the time of travel because apparently the higher the popularity of a campsite and the closer to the time of arrival the booking is made, the higher the price may be.

As with all the changes that have happened during the last 6 months, where were any or more importantly ALL the members consulted and balloted regarding these changes?

Many older members (like ourselves) cannot commit to long term bookings due to medical considerations, appointments that may arise because of these etc; we have previously just set off when able on a ‘tour’ and then by way of the (what was) late availability checker booked ‘on the fly.’


We have already been penalised with the 21 day non-returnable deposit system which really could have been much fairer reduced to 7 days. 

I used to fiercely defend the CAMC as a great organisation to be a member of but this latest move has been the nail in the coffin for us personally.

peedee replied on 13/06/2023 07:35

Posted on 12/06/2023 21:18 by DavidKlyne

Peedee

Again I don't have the magazine with me at the moment but I thought the report was from a very recent Club Council Meeting so I would have thought that the figures would be reasonably up to date? Given the importance of the Club Council would it really be given out of date figures? I don't suppose anyone is going to confirm that and perhaps we will have to wait until the AGM report is published later in the year?

David 

Posted on 13/06/2023 07:35

The figures quoted in the mag were for 2022 (382,000) which is all we will get at the next AGM which will be reporting on 2022 activities. For what is happening this year we will have to wait for the 2024 AGM, by that time we will have forgotten what we were discussing. smile However JK has reported that membership remains bouyant for the first quarter of this year so the signs are good? My view it is too early to tell. I don't think members will be leaving in droves but the finacial climate and the apparent disatisfaction with the Club is such that I will be very surprised if there isn't a downturn in both membership and site occupancy.

peedee

Hja replied on 13/06/2023 10:26

Posted on 13/06/2023 07:35 by peedee

The figures quoted in the mag were for 2022 (382,000) which is all we will get at the next AGM which will be reporting on 2022 activities. For what is happening this year we will have to wait for the 2024 AGM, by that time we will have forgotten what we were discussing. smile However JK has reported that membership remains bouyant for the first quarter of this year so the signs are good? My view it is too early to tell. I don't think members will be leaving in droves but the finacial climate and the apparent disatisfaction with the Club is such that I will be very surprised if there isn't a downturn in both membership and site occupancy.

peedee

Posted on 13/06/2023 10:26

I think any loss of membership is likely to be very gradual. Yes, there is a lot of disgruntlement, but many retain membership for the CL network. It seems quite a number get their membership back via various offers. I think more likely will be downturn in occupancy as people do in deed vote with their feet, using fewer club sites, more CLs and other sites. I have said it before, but having changed USP Club sites lose their advantage and some will be more likely to look around at eg independent sites. These may not be any cheaper and booking conditions may be no different but previously club sites had the advantage, now they don’t. Location of club site is likely to be become more important.

Also several people have on here have reported joining the CCC, me included. We won’t be the only ones. I know the Club argument for not having a lower OAP rate,  but as as a recipient of the discount on ccc sites it makes a difference to MY touring costs. We have stayed at two ccc club sites this year, £25 and £26 a night. Very favourably impressed with both. Toilet blocks were immaculate and showers well equipped. Although we still prefer CLs and CSs 

Frank Gill replied on 13/06/2023 16:24

Posted on 13/06/2023 10:26 by Hja

I think any loss of membership is likely to be very gradual. Yes, there is a lot of disgruntlement, but many retain membership for the CL network. It seems quite a number get their membership back via various offers. I think more likely will be downturn in occupancy as people do in deed vote with their feet, using fewer club sites, more CLs and other sites. I have said it before, but having changed USP Club sites lose their advantage and some will be more likely to look around at eg independent sites. These may not be any cheaper and booking conditions may be no different but previously club sites had the advantage, now they don’t. Location of club site is likely to be become more important.

Also several people have on here have reported joining the CCC, me included. We won’t be the only ones. I know the Club argument for not having a lower OAP rate,  but as as a recipient of the discount on ccc sites it makes a difference to MY touring costs. We have stayed at two ccc club sites this year, £25 and £26 a night. Very favourably impressed with both. Toilet blocks were immaculate and showers well equipped. Although we still prefer CLs and CSs 

Posted on 13/06/2023 16:24

Wife and I just qualified for age concession with CCC and for us has made a difference in costs for our trip to Wales later in the year. Even when looking for a long weekend close to us ( Devon/Cornwall ) we now look at alternatives to main CAMC sites and finding some great sites of all genre's that suit us.

 

eurortraveller replied on 13/06/2023 20:23

Posted on 09/02/2023 14:34 by


Apparently dynamic pricing is to be rolled out to all UK campsites during 2023.

Which means that those that book up to a year ahead will be able to take advantage of the lowest prices.

Those who for whatever reason cannot commit to booking so far in advance will be penalised if they wish to book closer to the time of travel because apparently the higher the popularity of a campsite and the closer to the time of arrival the booking is made, the higher the price may be.

As with all the changes that have happened during the last 6 months, where were any or more importantly ALL the members consulted and balloted regarding these changes?

Many older members (like ourselves) cannot commit to long term bookings due to medical considerations, appointments that may arise because of these etc; we have previously just set off when able on a ‘tour’ and then by way of the (what was) late availability checker booked ‘on the fly.’


We have already been penalised with the 21 day non-returnable deposit system which really could have been much fairer reduced to 7 days. 

I used to fiercely defend the CAMC as a great organisation to be a member of but this latest move has been the nail in the coffin for us personally.

Posted on 13/06/2023 20:23

Timberland Duo, How wrong you were when you posted this in February. 

InaD replied on 14/06/2023 07:31

Posted on 13/06/2023 10:26 by Hja

I think any loss of membership is likely to be very gradual. Yes, there is a lot of disgruntlement, but many retain membership for the CL network. It seems quite a number get their membership back via various offers. I think more likely will be downturn in occupancy as people do in deed vote with their feet, using fewer club sites, more CLs and other sites. I have said it before, but having changed USP Club sites lose their advantage and some will be more likely to look around at eg independent sites. These may not be any cheaper and booking conditions may be no different but previously club sites had the advantage, now they don’t. Location of club site is likely to be become more important.

Also several people have on here have reported joining the CCC, me included. We won’t be the only ones. I know the Club argument for not having a lower OAP rate,  but as as a recipient of the discount on ccc sites it makes a difference to MY touring costs. We have stayed at two ccc club sites this year, £25 and £26 a night. Very favourably impressed with both. Toilet blocks were immaculate and showers well equipped. Although we still prefer CLs and CSs 

Posted on 14/06/2023 07:31

Totally agree Hja, CLs are our reason for staying members.  The main CAMC sites no longer represent VFM to us, charges have gone up too much IMHO.  Yes, we are lucky enough that we can afford them, but even so, we do set a limit.

As for C&CC, we are members and as you say, at the end of the day what matters is your touring costs.

We are currently "over there" and on our way down to the tunnl needed a stopover.  I've mentioned this somewhere in another thread, but can't remember which one: the choice was Chapel Lane or C&CC Clent Hills.  For 1 night we didn't need EHU (solar panel); C&CC Clent Hills offered a grass pitch without EHU at £14 for the 1 night, with over 60s discount.  Without it it was still only £18.  The cheapest offered by CAMC was £31 for HS with EHU, no option for a non-EHU pitch.  We'd never been to that C&CC site, and we found it a really nice site, we had a lovely grass pitch, it was quiet, with very good toiletblock.  And we saved £17 on that 1 night.

peedee replied on 14/06/2023 10:13

Posted on 14/06/2023 10:13

I haven't seen any evidence of dynamic pricing, has the Club actually implemented it? I haven't seen an announcement confirming the intention either.

peedee

Cornersteady replied on 14/06/2023 10:33

Posted on 14/06/2023 10:13 by peedee

I haven't seen any evidence of dynamic pricing, has the Club actually implemented it? I haven't seen an announcement confirming the intention either.

peedee

Posted on 14/06/2023 10:33

I did post about something that could be, there were two occasions where a Saturday night price was slightly higher than the Friday and Sunday nights next to it, the Friday and Sunday were equal, I've never seen a Friday and Saturday nights being different when together so I assume if one wanted that weekend then there was a higher price for booking that Saturday. The Friday night was full and the Saturday was low if I recall correctly?

I'm not sure if that was DP or just a blip?

young thomas replied on 14/06/2023 16:49

Posted on 14/06/2023 16:49

All I see is myriad high prices....lots of variation with perhaps half a dozen prices all different by 50p to £1, but I cant say that's DP in action as the variation is nowhere near enough to attract someone.

where's the general tenner discount for arriving tomorrow rather than booking it last year (cheapest) or three weeks ago (most expensive)?

can't see any serious evidence of last minute prices in the site price panel.

what we got was an en mail offering discounts if we booked within a certain time frame for certain dates...

if this is the club reacting and implementing their version of DP, why do we need tons of variations within the price panels, why not keep it simple but wheel out the offers when necessary?

Wherenext replied on 22/06/2023 21:34

Posted on 14/06/2023 10:33 by Cornersteady

I did post about something that could be, there were two occasions where a Saturday night price was slightly higher than the Friday and Sunday nights next to it, the Friday and Sunday were equal, I've never seen a Friday and Saturday nights being different when together so I assume if one wanted that weekend then there was a higher price for booking that Saturday. The Friday night was full and the Saturday was low if I recall correctly?

I'm not sure if that was DP or just a blip?

Posted on 22/06/2023 21:34

I had that experience when checking out the site at Stamford this week for sometime in the Autumn.

6 days in the week one price bu the Saturday a full £0.65 dearer per person for Saturday. No other variations in the 3 weeks surrounding that week and nothing special about that Saturday. Just stupid algorithms, I suppose, but enough to feel apathetic towards the club for allowing such situations.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/06/2023 10:12

Posted on 14/06/2023 16:49 by young thomas

All I see is myriad high prices....lots of variation with perhaps half a dozen prices all different by 50p to £1, but I cant say that's DP in action as the variation is nowhere near enough to attract someone.

where's the general tenner discount for arriving tomorrow rather than booking it last year (cheapest) or three weeks ago (most expensive)?

can't see any serious evidence of last minute prices in the site price panel.

what we got was an en mail offering discounts if we booked within a certain time frame for certain dates...

if this is the club reacting and implementing their version of DP, why do we need tons of variations within the price panels, why not keep it simple but wheel out the offers when necessary?

Posted on 23/06/2023 10:12

That’s marketing as you and I understand it YT. I’m not quite sure what the Club is doing to be honest, and in truth don’t take that much interest as all offers are Deleted User quickly from my in box.

If I rolled into a Site mid week, one with plenty of spare pitches, I would want a damn good discount way beyond what the Club are offering to take up a bit of the slack. It’s what we do with cottages, B&B’s etc…. I can only guess that sites are selling pitches very well, and don’t miss folks like us. All hail to the Club😁

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