Disabled facilities / officer

TobyLeeds replied on 28/10/2019 18:52

Posted on 28/10/2019 18:52

I recently visited the Malvern site and found all the flexible hoses in the disabled and adapted showers fixed to the wall with Muston rings allowing only about 20 cm of free movement. Clearly this made showering difficult for the disabled.

after several emails to head office I was told that the club did not have a disabilities officer! It seems strange that a club employing so many people and with a membership, many who may have a disability, does not have an officer specifically for disability issues. 

What does the membership think?

mickysf replied on 29/10/2019 19:40

Posted on 29/10/2019 17:45 by Tinwheeler

I know but please don’t insult the wardens.

Posted on 29/10/2019 19:40

Cut DD a bit of slack, I'm sure it was a typo, or a spell checker error, he wouldn't be as cras as that! Easily happens! The wardens do a fine job I'm sure he appreciates that.

KjellNN replied on 29/10/2019 21:11

Posted on 29/10/2019 21:11

While I am sure that these facilities meet with the rules, I do often wonder if any disabled people have been involved in advising as to the suitability of what is proposed/provided.  Having assisted my OH in many of these rooms on sites of both clubs I have noticed several things that IMO could be done much better.....

As the OP commented, restraining a lift down shower head so that it cannot be easily used by anyone who needs to sit while showering seems to defeat the purpose, some are even difficult to use when standing.  Surely there must be a way of meeting the water regulations but still keeping the use of the shower sensible?

The use of rather inflexible plastic hoses......these can make it very difficult to direct the spray sensibly when the head is placed on the riser rail.

Temperature adjustment and water pressure......often the temperature cannot be adjusted  enough upwards to give a good hot shower (if that is what you want) and we have found sites where the pressure in the disabled room seems to have been reduced compared to what I have experienced in the ordinary showers.

This is often not helped by the poor choice of shower head style .

Hooks.......these are sometimes fitted only low down and clothes hung on them can trail on the floor.  While a wheelchair user may need low hooks, not all disabled people use a wheelchair, hooks should be fitted at normal as well as low level.

Mirrors.....again often fitted low down above a very low wash basin, and, unless the mirror is large, can mean it is no use to a standing person.

Towel rail......generally not provided.......have you tried hanging a large bath towel on a small hook?!

A surface on which to place equipment or personal items.......usually only a narrow shelf which is generally not well situated and of inadequate size.

Floor........sometimes not well laid, with lack of fall towards the drain allowing water to spread over a large area of the floor.

Shower curtain and rail........some type of rails make it difficult to pull the curtain, especially when fixed high up, and often the enclosed area is too small.  Cue "clingy curtain syndrome"!

Heating......almost always could be better.  Disabled people invariably take longer to get dried and dressed so the level of heating, especially in the colder months, needs to be improved.  (Best room we have used was in Looe, where there is under floor heating)

Draught proofing.......as the entrance door is usually directly from outside, there should be much better draught proofing, it is often decidedly chilly near the door, and this does not help with the temperature in the room.

Layout......when the room is large, why are the toilet and basin often crammed close together in one corner?

Like  peedee and his OH,  we often find using our own facilities much more satisfactory!

nelliethehooker replied on 30/10/2019 21:29

Posted on 30/10/2019 21:29

It would be good if someone from HO could respond regards the question of why an organization as large as our does not have a Disability Officer.

peedee replied on 31/10/2019 07:01

Posted on 31/10/2019 07:01

I have never heard of any organisation of any size having a Disability Officer! That said why would it be necessary? There is ample guidence and regulations on requirements in the Building Regulations. I have no idea who draws up building plans in the Club but who ever it is I would expect them to be fully acquainted with the Building Regulations.

peedee

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 31/10/2019 07:22

Posted on 31/10/2019 07:22

Disability Officer?, I did some research out of interest as I’ve not heard of a DO. They are mainly found in education facilities ie-colleges, universities & schools👍🏻. Every day is a school day(no pun intended).

rayjsj replied on 31/10/2019 09:07

Posted on 29/10/2019 10:42 by EmilysDad

The same guide that says an outside tap should have a none return valve fitted to prevent syphoning back into the water system.

Posted on 31/10/2019 09:07

They are the attachments ,widely seem this year that are wasting thousands of gallons (estimate might be more) of fresh water onto the ground, and sometimes over my trousers and shoes. 

So thats what they are supposed to do ? Another potty club idea.

replied on 31/10/2019 09:18

Posted on 31/10/2019 09:18

Another potty club idea.

Another water authority requirement

EmilysDad replied on 31/10/2019 09:53

Posted on 31/10/2019 09:18 by

Another potty club idea.

Another water authority requirement

Posted on 31/10/2019 09:53

Maybe a water authority requirement but why only ever seen on club sites? 😕

replied on 31/10/2019 10:40

Posted on 31/10/2019 09:53 by EmilysDad

Maybe a water authority requirement but why only ever seen on club sites? 😕

Posted on 31/10/2019 10:40

Probably because the taps have been replaced when refurbished since a change in the regs required that anti backflow taps have an air gap rather than a spring? Only a guess. No idea otherwise.

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