After the re-brand to CMC

Posted on 01/07/2018 11:46 by Takethedogalong

It's like talking to a brick wall. Closed minds, my way is the only way. You shall take a white box overseas, or life isn't worth living, at least from a holidaying point of view. 

I am sure that touring overseas is very enjoyable, certainly as enjoyable as touring in Britain. In some ways possibly nicer, in others not so nice. It's like those of us who tour in Winter, in snow and ice. We do it because it's what we enjoy. But we are not desperate to tell all and sundry that it's what they should do. Nor call someone a coward for not trying it. That would be silly and childish, because as adults, we know folks make their own choices for a lot of reasons.

K, you are either just jumping on the wind up wagon, or maybe time for a prescription review?

Posted on 01/07/2018 14:22 by Takethedogalong

I think you are missing the point to a certain extent David. I personally make no assumptions why folks choose to travel where they do or how they do. It's a personal thing, and as such individuals make the choices that are right for them. Touring isn't second class, or indeed any class to me, been doing it in one form or another for a very long time. We will happily take our outfit overseas when circumstances allow us to do so. As it stands at the moment, with a couple of dogs in our travelling unit, taking them abroad to somewhere hot just isn't a choice for us, it's been hard enough these last three weeks coping with their comfort in 30.c temperatures. Asking how dogs abroad survive isn't the answer either, it's a choice we have no intention of trying out.

I am also still caring extensively for my last surviving parent, having not had a proper holiday of more than a week for six years. And then there's my OH, three huge operations for cancer, and a heart attack all in the last 18 months, and losing my Dad while all this was going on. Choosing somewhere to have a break has involved not much more than how quickly can I get home in an emergency for the last six years, and I know there are others out there doing exactly the same. As such, taunts about being frightened to venture further, having no imagination beyond the UK are not only meaningless, they hurt. Of course I have been abroad, of course I want to have longer periods away, of course I want to go back to places I love, and discover new ones. At the moment, I can't. I don't expect anyone to know about my problems having a decent break, but subjecting others to taunts of being frightened, having no imagination etc.... are a bit like playground bullying of a child who is different. It's not nice, it says a great deal more about those doing the bullying, and it comes across as smug and uncaring. These are not observations levelled at you personally by the way, merely a view of how all the speculation and assumption from some posters is way off the mark. I sincerely hope that all of us who tour can do so for a very long time in whatever, and wherever we choose.

Posted on 01/07/2018 13:24 by

We take a white box abroad for exactly the same reason others tour around the UK in a white box, it' our personal mobile accommodation to take where we want and have the freedom and flexibility  to travel in a way impossible by any other means. We go to places both well known and others totally "off the radar" of tour companies. At the moment we are coming to the end of an 11 week trip 12 sites so far non booked,  some regular favourites and others new to us and have due to weather conditions had a totally different trip to the one we envisaged when we left home. This is what our white box is for and the only reason I ever took up "white box" ownership in 1978, what I still find surrising is a caravan forum with  so many who don' seem to regard thier van as anything more than a second class means of taking the occasional short trip close to home, ours will be on Ebay when that day comes.

Posted on 01/07/2018 14:22 by Takethedogalong

I think you are missing the point to a certain extent David. I personally make no assumptions why folks choose to travel where they do or how they do. It's a personal thing, and as such individuals make the choices that are right for them. Touring isn't second class, or indeed any class to me, been doing it in one form or another for a very long time. We will happily take our outfit overseas when circumstances allow us to do so. As it stands at the moment, with a couple of dogs in our travelling unit, taking them abroad to somewhere hot just isn't a choice for us, it's been hard enough these last three weeks coping with their comfort in 30.c temperatures. Asking how dogs abroad survive isn't the answer either, it's a choice we have no intention of trying out.

I am also still caring extensively for my last surviving parent, having not had a proper holiday of more than a week for six years. And then there's my OH, three huge operations for cancer, and a heart attack all in the last 18 months, and losing my Dad while all this was going on. Choosing somewhere to have a break has involved not much more than how quickly can I get home in an emergency for the last six years, and I know there are others out there doing exactly the same. As such, taunts about being frightened to venture further, having no imagination beyond the UK are not only meaningless, they hurt. Of course I have been abroad, of course I want to have longer periods away, of course I want to go back to places I love, and discover new ones. At the moment, I can't. I don't expect anyone to know about my problems having a decent break, but subjecting others to taunts of being frightened, having no imagination etc.... are a bit like playground bullying of a child who is different. It's not nice, it says a great deal more about those doing the bullying, and it comes across as smug and uncaring. These are not observations levelled at you personally by the way, merely a view of how all the speculation and assumption from some posters is way off the mark. I sincerely hope that all of us who tour can do so for a very long time in whatever, and wherever we choose.

Posted on 01/07/2018 14:48 by Tinwheeler

Well done, TDA, for saying what you have. Some people do indeed have very good reasons for not holidaying or travelling abroad. There may be personal, financial, family or medical reasons and you have ably demonstrated the point.

I wish people with no knowledge of other's circumstances would stop criticising people’s choice of holiday destination as it is hurtful and, let’s face it, rude and thoughtless.

I wish you well wherever your LV is pitched, as I do everyone. However, like you, I can well do without the constant jibes about our choices.

Posted on 01/07/2018 15:17 by huskydog

We haven't toured abroad ,and I don't feel I need to justify that ,but for the benefit of those who do and think maybe I would be out of my comfort zone ,the reasons are .

only just got a passport , my elderly parents,and losing my dad last month , my wife having 27 operations in 9 years , and 10 years ago coming out my "comfort zone" by giving up my well paid job and buying a retail business, 

but to all of you that tour abroad for weeks on end ,carry on and make the most of it ,you only have yourself to please , I'm happy for you 

Posted on 01/07/2018 15:17 by huskydog

We haven't toured abroad ,and I don't feel I need to justify that ,but for the benefit of those who do and think maybe I would be out of my comfort zone ,the reasons are .

only just got a passport , my elderly parents,and losing my dad last month , my wife having 27 operations in 9 years , and 10 years ago coming out my "comfort zone" by giving up my well paid job and buying a retail business, 

but to all of you that tour abroad for weeks on end ,carry on and make the most of it ,you only have yourself to please , I'm happy for you 

Posted on 01/07/2018 14:30 by Cornersteady

but subjecting others to taunts of being frightened, having no imagination etc.... are a bit like playground bullying of a child who is different. It's not nice, it says a great deal more about those doing the bullying

and again +1, indeed it is just that