We stayed at the Roberts' other site Caerhun back in August but found this one much better. It felt more secure, being further away from the road up a twisting approach drive, and quieter too. It is the view which makes this place, surrounded by sheep with a lovely valley below, a view to snow-topped mountains (it was December!) with the cafe at the top of the Great Orme visible on clear days. I know what the reviewer who commented on Mr Roberts not getting out of his vehicle means, because the same happened with us, in both sites, and yes the slate chippings on the hardstandings do get walked into the van. This is why I have only given four stars overall, and for the welcome. On the whole however we much preferred it here, and would return in future.