Thinking about getting a Safefill cylinder

Great idea, CY and RMcN, and it's been discussed before but I fear there's no chance.

Firstly, the tanks on site are storage tanks to feed the site needs, they are not pumps. There would probably need to be a replacement, or additional installation, for sites to have the right equipment and capacity for such an undertaking. Not to mention the location to enable LVs to access them.

Secondly, just think potential costs, staffing, training, insurance, H&S......

I agree TW. The logistics and costs would make it a non starter. On a positive note the lady in the Morrison’s station said their LPG pump gets lots and lots of use. Given that many will also fill with fuel, as it’s as cheap as anywhere and perhaps pop into the main store to restock food supplies. Hopefully they will want to keep it.🤞

Someone would have to produce a business plan to persuade the Club it was a good idea, or at least persuade the Club to do that. Don't recall it being a question asked at the AGM? Do we know how many members actually use refillable systems? Would many switch if that facility was available. One major obstacle might be the contract the club have with Calor to supply gas to campsite facility blocks? If that contract was a problem it could lead to Calor not supplying refill cylinders to sites which I imagine would inconvenience more members than not supplying a LPG filling service?  Many who might use the facility are those that spend a lot of time in Europe, many of whom are currently being forced to camp on home turf. What happens when they are free to travel abroad and then probably make minimal use of Club sites. Finally I would wonder if the Club could compete in price terms with the other major suppliers? So many things to take into account?

David

Good to hear, Steve. I wish they sold LPG at all their fuel stations.

Any chance that you have thought about the costs of  your idea to be implemented. even some? Commercial sites need qualified staff to over see the use of the pumps that they have installed as posted   with the demise of LPG vehicles the cost and maintainance of such facilities would be a major factor,  I do not think Calor bulk at this time install such equipment? 

And I cannot see them doing so when they have their cylinders being the National it seems supply ,where other companies seem not so ,as it is a by product of oil it may well in the future also not be viable

Finally I would wonder if the Club could compete in price terms with the other major suppliers?

Many other suppliers are fairly expensive, as in the seventy p’s. The last time I filled at the Shell 2 miles away, before they removed the pump, it was 69p. Morrison’s seems to be a bit of an exception at around 58p. The other local outlet is similar to the Shell and very difficult to get into. Fortunately although our nearby Morrison’s don’t do LPG, we pass very close to those in Doncaster when we head north / return home on the A1 or M18.

That's an interesting and useful suggestion Roger.  I will certainly make a note of this and raise this matter at a Club Council meeting when I get the chance.  However, the Club Council only meet twice a year  so the earliest I can ask an initial question may well be October.  It's on my list....

Apart from the installation cost, it would possibly involve extra, training for site staff... Perhaps initially it would be worth a survey to see how many folk would be likely to use such a facility...?   Let's see what happens... 

David

The other thing would be whether one could use the facility when passing or, like the "Dump & Fill" they would inexplicably restrict it to those on site. Hardly a "member friendly" attitude.

To make the equipment installation and use cost effective they may have to open the service up to all comers, members or not.  Now can you imagine that howls of protest that will cause .  Dire warnings of queues, safety concerns, control, etc, etc.  CAMC has a well ingrained and deep rooted can't do attitude so I doubt it will even get to the starting line.  It's a good and worthy idea though.  

Are Safefill still trading or at least able to supply containers? Their website has none and none of the retailers can supply one. I have an order for one at LPG shop and they tell me that Safefill are not answering phones or emails.