Refillable Gas Systems

Went to Jackson this afternoon and at the checkout ( total cost 99p!!) I asked the lady at the cashdesk if the uptake of Safefill had increased. She answered 'Massively'! She put it partly down to the withdrawal of the CalorvLites from circulation. I think you will find that Calor will bring out a composite cylinder made by  the same manufacturer as Safefill for the weight issue, but they will be rental cylinders- what else?? It'll be interesting to see what they do. 

Rivetting in fact. 

So glad you think so ET 😏

Hi Guy's, any news from Morrison's yet?

Just had the following reply from UKLPG. 

 

Many thanks for your email.

User Information Sheet (UIS) 26 is published by UKLPG for forecourt operators re their legal duties. Neither UIS 26 nor the Red Guide prohibit the filling of cylinders and it is the responsibility of the duty holder (i.e. the forecourt operator) to have their own policy and procedures in place should they decide to permit the filling of cylinders.

 

So it would appear to still be down to individual filling stations/companies 

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1. No news on the Morrisons front yet- keep praying.
2. I had the same email from UKLPG and am formulating a reply. The Sheet 26 you are looking at was revised in July 16. An awful lot has happened since then!! This is still the old 26 and will, in some cases, convince the forecourt owner that he must not allow 'customers or untrained staff' to fill cylinders! I didn't notice queues of car drivers waiting for training courses when they started filling up there gas converted cars!! This is just delaying tactics for political and profit reasons. There are those that are still trying to kill off Safefill. They haven't realised that the battle is lost but, they will carry on fighting as long as they can. All a Safefill is is a cylinder shaped car! Shell replied to me the other day saying that due to the cylinder 'shooting off' the dispenser on the odd occasion, the blanket ban remains in force. As Safefill users will know, such a thing can't happen. I would have emailed back but sometimes you just have to accept that your efforts are hitting a brick wall.  When you study this a little closer you realise that Autogas supplies Shell and who are Autogas?? - Calor!! I have the distinct feeling that Shell will be left with egg on their faces as Safefill becomes widely or even universally accepted. Watch this space for further exciting news😂😂😂😂😂

Does anyone know if two Safefill bottles will fit in the centre gas bottle compartment of a Bailey Unicorn 3 Valencia?  No-one has been able to answer that one for definite.  The chap at our local dealers thought probably not, but he was 'guessing'.  I just wanted to avoid taking the caravan to a safefill supplier and trying it! 

David

Do you have space for two ordinary ones?  If so I would expect the Safefills to fit - my locker would take two if I get round to putting the second.  They aren't vastly different to what we have been used to. 

Sorry I can't be definite - but if you buy one - you could tell then? 

These are the various bottle sizes:-

Gaslightbottles.co.uk avail from Homebase. (formerly BP then MacGas)

10kg H587 W305 Gross weight 15.4 £65/£30
5Kg H393 W305 8.7 £57

27mm clip on regulator

Calor Propane
13Kg H810 W315 gross weight 28Kg
Calor Lite H487 W256 gross weight 10.5Kg

Flogas ( Gaslow - marginally smaller)
6Kg H495 W256 gross weight 14.3Kg £30 deposit
11Kg H560 W310 gross weight 24.2Kg

Alugas
11Kg H600 W300 gross weight 15.4Kg

Safefill H571 W305 gross weight 15Kg net weight 10Kg = 19.5L £160+14pp
H468 11.6Kg 7.5Kg = 14.5L £150
H384 8.4Kg 5Kg = 9.5L £145
initial. Refill £12(+-)

Just found some info which may be useful whilst having a garage tidy. For Antargaz Calypso we have a Comap cylinder valve adaptor Code 003250AF-SC inlet 20mm. with HP hose 20mm to 22mm. Works well and we can see when we are low on gas.

Le Cube uses the same connection as Gaslight

http://www.thegaslowcentre.co.uk/magento/gaslow/english/gaslow-27mm-clip-on-bbq-patio-heater-french-lecube-to-21-8-lh.html various connector/adapters.

Useful webpage on gas
http://www.mycaravan.org.uk/Gas%20Bottles.html