How to thrive on a non EHU site .

Don't give up on the electric toaster just yet, our four slice toaster has independent controls for each pair of slots so it is a genuine his and hers toaster - essential for domestic harmony. We could get by without gas for a couple of days but not the electric toaster. 

I certainly couldn't do without 12v power for a couple of days! - no water, no flush, no light ....or gas for that matter as the fridge runs on it and the water and heating is driven by it. I could however, do without 240v as everything that 240v does on board can be done in another way- but with a decent inverter why would I?  -  it's just the convenience I would miss I guess. 

Merve I have that printed and in the car.  Would it be a waste of energy to try the Shell garage in Lincoln I asked when I first got my Safefill?  I need to top up at some point fairly soon.  Unfortunately my cylinder is the old blue one which might not help.  I know Brayford caravans will be happy to take my money!  

Shouldn't this thread be titled 'The Safefill Promotion Thread' sponsored by Merve and his flock of....?

Sorry, forgot that these things can't be changed

Shame it's raining outside there are useful things that could be done

I missed out the 'Episode 2' bit....must apply for an IT job, I know just the outfit!

Thank goodness it's nearly stopped raining

That's not a bad idea EJB then perhaps only the interested would go there.  Refillable gas systems - perhaps?  

Pippah

I think it would be sensible to have a thread on Refillable Gas Systems. The current and previous thread titles are far too general. I am sure people can survive a limited amount of time without 230v electrics as they can with standard exchange cylinders. I would also suggest that the thread needs to accentuate the positives of refillable systems rather than effectively slag of the likes of Calor. The refillable option won't suit all so they, for various reasons, will want to stay with an exchange cylinder and I am not sure we should make people that prefer to do it that way seem as though their judgement is unsound if you see what I mean. Now I don't know whether Merve wants to start a new thread promoting the advantages of a refillable system pointing out the pluses and minuses or whether he wants on of the existing threads renamed? 

David

And whilst there is much useful information here I think Merve would do well to tone down his simmering undercurrent of contempt for people who do not share his view of "camping"......

I might "wildcamp" the odd night in a scenic part of Scotland but most of my vanning will be on a conventional site with "free" EHU meaning I have absolutely no need for a solar panel or refillable gas cylinder which would never pay for itself...... 

I suspect my style of camping is the same as many people's on here....

Merve's technical input is valuable, especially perhaps to people going "over there" or doing a lot of wildcamping, but he needs to accept his ways wont gain many people anything at all.....

No effort at the moment would be a waste Pippah. The colour is unimportant so long as it's a Safefill. I am hearing of people being successful with garages where before the weren't. The difference this time is that you have legal backup for your request.It will be very interesting to find out. I have written to Shell and am still waiting for the official reply- they have sent an acknowledgement for my email. I'm not sure whether to interpret the length of time as a good sign or a bad one?? One thing is now certain- they have no legal basis on which to refuse Safefill Cylinders. We all need to push this- I will be out next week before going to the Lakes selling the idea to the LPG points in Leicestershire and Northamptonshire. 

Tintent, that is a misinterpretation of this thread! I do not think people who go on EHU are poorer for it - perhaps financially yes but that's all. I certainly don't have an under current thing going on😂😂😂 This is for the folk who have embraced the new technologies and gone non EHU. That's all! Don't please see things that are not there. I used to camp like that you know!   Yes, the vast majority of caravanners camp with EHU and Calor and frankly I'm very glad they do but, there have been people email me to say that they have gone non EHU and are very grateful for all the info that the non EHUers have put on here and have made the decision to do it. I've not had an Email yet that said that it was awful and they had wasted their money so please TT, good luck to you - no hard feelings I hope.