What Gas?

johnthomo replied on 16/09/2018 11:45

Posted on 16/09/2018 11:45

We're taking delivery of our first Motorhome on 26th and the options of different types of gas are not as simple as I thought. Propane, Butane, refillable? The dealership are pushing the refillable option at nearly £500 for a 11kg and a 6kg bottle. I understand the convenience. However, that's £380 more expensive than the exchangeable option. I'd really appreciate some experienced advice please.    

Grumblewagon replied on 16/09/2018 11:54

Posted on 16/09/2018 11:54

Firstly,  I'd recommend Propane as Butane does not vapourise at low temps.  As for the other options, consider just how much gas you are likely to use.  Will you be using a lot to run the fridge off-grid or cooking a lot?  If you don't think you will use a lot of gas, then I'd go for the cheaper option.  Yes, refills are dearer, but infrequent.

 

harryb replied on 16/09/2018 12:23

Posted on 16/09/2018 12:23

As a caravanner I agree with the above. You need to use refillable on a constant basis to make them worthwhile.

 

Make sure your dealer gives you your first bottle of gas.

 

Wanderbirds replied on 16/09/2018 15:55

Posted on 16/09/2018 11:45 by johnthomo

We're taking delivery of our first Motorhome on 26th and the options of different types of gas are not as simple as I thought. Propane, Butane, refillable? The dealership are pushing the refillable option at nearly £500 for a 11kg and a 6kg bottle. I understand the convenience. However, that's £380 more expensive than the exchangeable option. I'd really appreciate some experienced advice please.    

Posted on 16/09/2018 15:55

Hello Gw,

I would wholeheartedly agree with the advice of the two previous replies. However, I would add another couple of factors to consider.  Will you be doing a lot of touring in Europe?  Will you be visiting German Christmas markets or going skiing? Do you have a bad back?

If you do either or both you will need to exchange gas cylinders in Europe, where Calor gas is not available and small Campingaz a very expensive option and would freeze in winter. Refillable allows you to get LPG throughout most of Europe.

 Before we  moved to refillable we had different exchangeable gas bottles for France, Germany and Spain/Portugal with different “pigtails” for the regulator for each bottle type. It is also now more difficult to get a French exchange bottle than it was. Each System adds to the cost and carrying different bottles can be problematic on longer more extensive tours.  Further, if like us you visit parts of Europe in the middle of winter, you can easily experience temperatures between -10C and -20C.  We have at German Christmas markets and although there is often electricity on Stellplatzen (motor home overnight parking areas) there is not always the amperage to fully heat using electricity.  Further, electricity is often metered and an expensive heating option. 

Refillable removes the need to lift very heavy gas bottles in and out of the motor home.

Finally, will you be “rallying” offgrid most weekends? If so refillable might be worth considering.

Having said all that if you are going to tour the UK  using sites and CLs with the odd trip to France in summer and don’t have a bad back, go for an exchangeable Calor propane setup would be my advice.

Dorset Diver replied on 16/09/2018 16:14

Posted on 16/09/2018 16:14

I agree with most of the above.  Propane every time (LPG is propane).  If you are likely to use a fair amount of gas go for refillable cylinders.  Also consider the weight, ALUGAS cylinders are the lightest of the three main contenders. 

cyberyacht replied on 16/09/2018 19:22

Posted on 16/09/2018 19:22

Is ALUGAS the lightest? I would imagine that Safefill is probably even lighter and has the added advantage that it can be taken on its own to a refilling point should that be required.

Dorset Diver replied on 16/09/2018 19:38

Posted on 16/09/2018 19:38

As I said "of the three main contenders".  Of course if you want a removable bottle then there are others to consider.  

DSB replied on 16/09/2018 21:21

Posted on 16/09/2018 21:21

It is still possible to get Calorlite if you look around, but I suspect quite difficult/impossible to start a new contract on them.  Eventually, Calor are expecting to bring out a replacement for Calorlite, but the last time I looked, dates for this seemed very 'unclear'.

David

BoleroBoy replied on 17/09/2018 08:04

Posted on 17/09/2018 08:04

if you travel abroad and/or you have trouble physically exchanging bottles and/or you use a decent amount of gas by camping at CL/THS or rally events, then refillable is the way to go.

its easy to fit one (but in your case the selling dealer should do it) and you can get an 11kg single bottle system with filler and hoses for around £300.

its not necessary to have two bottles....in your case you would only increase capacity by 50% but double the cost....

i only have one 11kg and have no problem refilling when required.

i also have space (and pigtail) for a second large Spanish bottle should we decide to stay long term on a site and not move the van....

i would be pushing the dealer harder to include this as part of the deal....

good luck.

Dorset Diver replied on 17/09/2018 12:43

Posted on 17/09/2018 12:43

If you do choose a twin bottle installation you can also use local bottles by using a gaslow local cylinder hose and the appropriate local connector.

richardandros replied on 17/09/2018 14:49

Posted on 17/09/2018 14:49

If you're thinking of Safefill as an option, you will be extremely lucky to get hold of one.  I think I managed to source the only one left in the North of England, yesterday, and did a round trip of 200 miles to grab it.  Even Safefill don't have any.  I did find out why - and couldn't believe it - and I don't think I dare publish the reason on here.