Weigh bridge blues

The legal limits are very clear for all vehicles. A  motor caravan is plated just the same as a car - front axle max, rear axle  max, Train weight max. You are breaking the law if you exceed any of these. The towing limit is train weight minus the sum of axle weights. Driving Licence limits rule. 

Clear for cars and other vehicles - I don;t think they are clear at all for caravans. I can find no reference to MTPLM having any legal validity. 

GTW seems to be the only legal limit VOSA will be interested in. 

Clear for cars and other vehicles - I don;t think they are clear at all for caravans. I can find no reference to MTPLM having any legal validity. 

GTW seems to be the only legal limit VOSA will be interested in. 

 

..Try to tell VOSA that when they weigh your c/van on one of their "stops"

Be quite happy to

GTW for car is 6740KG  - max tow weight is 3500kg and I know I'm well within the limits for that. 

Current van has MTPLM of 1800KG  - while I think I'm inside it, I haven't weighed it yet. 

Fully accept I may have missed it but I can see no reference to MTPLM anywhere  - just to GTW 

Be quite happy to

GTW for car is 6740KG  - max tow weight is 3500kg and I know I'm well within the limits for that. 

Current van has MTPLM of 1800KG  - while I think I'm inside it, I haven't weighed it yet. 

Fully accept I may have missed it but I can see no reference to MTPLM anywhere  - just to GTW 

...Its just the same as any vehicle that exceeds its plated max weight

boris, if you exceed the plated weight of your caravan you will be breaking the law, AFAIK.

Train weights are a separate issue.

each element of the 'train' will have its own limits, determined by the individual plate.

But the MTPLM sticker by the door is a caravan standard as far as I can tell and not the equivalent VIN. I have heard/read of actual plated figures on chassis being significantly higher.

The MTPLM on our van was 1650KG but for 50 quid it suddenly became 1800KG - so how can the plate be definitive? 

I hope you get an answer Boris. I would like to know the answer myself. 

But the MTPLM sticker by the door is a caravan standard as far as I can tell and not the equivalent VIN. I have heard/read of actual plated figures on chassis being significantly higher.

The MTPLM on our van was 1650KG but for 50 quid it suddenly became 1800KG - so how can the plate be definitive? 

 

...Its what VOSA will use ,a Comercial vehicle can be replated,as noted with some m/van chassis

But the MTPLM sticker by the door is a caravan standard as far as I can tell and not the equivalent VIN. I have heard/read of actual plated figures on chassis being significantly higher.

The MTPLM on our van was 1650KG but for 50 quid it suddenly became 1800KG - so how can the plate be definitive? 

 

the plate is definitive because, if you get the weight changed (by the authorised process) one of the outputs of this process is a new weight plate....

so, caravan has a weight plate of 1650kg, you pay £50 to a bloke (authorised...) who sorts out all the necessary (which may have vehicle taxing implications in the case of a MH) and comes back with a new plate to be affixed to the van, next to the old plate, providing you with an uprated van, and everyone else with a change history.

presto, your van now has a MTPLM of 1800kg.

however, the statement remains, if you exceed this 'new' plated value, you will be in trouble

ps....my additional weight plate carries the VIN of my vehicle