Mirrors or Not

The regulations are quite clear in specifying a required angle of vision to the rear through the exterior mirrors. If that angle of vision is achievable without towing mirrors you don't need them, if not you do.

I am belt and braces pair of milenco aeros and two rearview cameras on a split monitor, Also makes for easy parking and maouvering, But hey thats just me, each to their own as long as you are legal.

every type of mirror I have tried over the last thirty years   have been useless, shaky and with blind spots you could hide a bus in. Personally I consider e en if you cannot quite se the required angle car mirrors are safer, and if you move your head a couple of inches forward you generally cover the required angle. Not that I advocate not using towing mirrors if your van is wide .

If that angle of vision is achievable without towing mirrors you don't need them,

That is the concept that it seems impossible for some people to grasp.  It is quite a bit frightening that it is seen to make towing "safe" by simply having towing mirrors fitted by those who don't see that they are not enhancing their vision.

There are those who might say that it does not matter since the driver does not look at the mirrors anyway!

For the avoidance of doubt, a Boxer is 2mm under 2 Metres wide. With very few exceptions, there aren't any caravans under 2.2Metres and most are a whisker over that. The only vehicle I know, and even that is only just 2.2 Metres, is the Hummer. Come on, own up. Who tows with one of those?

every type of mirror I have tried over the last thirty years   have been useless, shaky and with blind spots you could hide a bus in. Personally I consider e en if you cannot quite se the required angle car mirrors are safer, and if you move your head a couple of inches forward you generally cover the required angle. Not that I advocate not using towing mirrors if your van is wide .

Towing mirrors are a legal requirement on most outfits so shaky or not, blind spots or not they are cheaper than a fine and better than points on your licence.

I would admit mine shake a bit but they do increase my view and combined with the car mirrors I get far more rear view than without. I cannot see me ditching them law or no law.

I overheard this in my local " Taxi Drivers always check their mirrors twice - once to see if theres anything there and another to see if they have smacked it" Amused me at the time.

Bear in mind also that as soon as one deviates from a straight line the whole thing becomes a nonsense.

Bear in mind also that as soon as one deviates from a straight line the whole thing becomes a nonsense.

...Got to be quite a deviation if towing mirrors fitted correctly

Bear in mind also that as soon as one deviates from a straight line the whole thing becomes a nonsense.

Doesnt mirror, signal, manoeuvre apply these days?