Jacking your van for Wheel Change

Little Jack replied on 29/04/2017 02:06

Posted on 29/04/2017 02:06

Help please. We bought our first van last year, had a full service done which included four new tyres, amongst other things and we were under the impression from the previous owner that if we needed to change a flat tyre for the spare, our car Jack would be sufficient. Now we are a bit more savvy with Caravanning it occurs to me that a Mitsubishi Shogun bottle jack, although capable of lifting two tons has the ability, it does not have the safe and correct contact with the chassis of the van to make a secure and safe lift. Our van is a 2003 Swift Conqueror 645 Lux twin axle and does have chassis mounted brackets behind the trailing wheels only, to take a jack. Can anyone tell me what kind of jack I should now seek to purchase, a bottle jack, scissor jack or side-arm type or better still can anyone tell me if there is a purpose designed jack for this type of van. I have today proved to myself that our car Jack is capable of lifting the van, but as I say, it was by no means a secure fit and on a motorway hard shoulder with wagons whooshing by, I am sure any gust of wind would knock the van off the Jack which might then puncture the floor of our van. PS: We have a heavy duty single axle motor mover attached in front of the leading two wheels (works fine) and there are no Jacking points forward of this only after the rear wheels. Many Thanks. 

molly68 replied on 01/05/2017 19:56

Posted on 01/05/2017 19:56

I have a Kojack type jack with the smaller brackets fitted to the caravan.With the caravan attached to the car as instrutions it lifts the caravan with no effort.I have tried a trolley and find it very akward to position it under the axle and difficult to operate.

IanH replied on 01/05/2017 20:12

Posted on 01/05/2017 20:12

Agree that the Alko jack is a piece of junk not worthy of the name 'jack'.

We also have a trolley jack that we carry in the boot.

I have changed a wheel on the motorway. Not a pleasant experience but perfectly do-able. How do you think the breakdown service do it? 

Vehicles tend not to veer off the motorway into parked vehicles. Nor do aircraft tend to plunge from the sky into them.

dave the rave replied on 01/05/2017 21:18

Posted on 01/05/2017 20:12 by IanH

Agree that the Alko jack is a piece of junk not worthy of the name 'jack'.

We also have a trolley jack that we carry in the boot.

I have changed a wheel on the motorway. Not a pleasant experience but perfectly do-able. How do you think the breakdown service do it? 

Vehicles tend not to veer off the motorway into parked vehicles. Nor do aircraft tend to plunge from the sky into them.

Posted on 01/05/2017 21:18

I totally disagree with your statement about vehicles veering off the motorway....usually large hgv type! (and aircraft do crash onto vehicles!!!!)Breakdown/recovery operators are trained in self protection and even they can be caught out!!!Do not be tempted>(in my opinion)

Little Jack replied on 07/05/2017 13:10

Posted on 07/05/2017 13:10

Thanks to all of you that have replied to my plea for help. Albeit, I feel I have been told off now for even considering changing a wheel on the hard shoulder. I was of course referring to any situation of changing a wheel. I am actually a fully paid up Mayday member so could call them out but like some of the comments say, I would like to think I can change a wheel without having to cry for help plus you could sit around waiting for a couple of hours before they turn up. I am going to go with the general consensus and get a 2t Trolley Jack from Halford's who seem to have many on offer around the £30.00 mark. This is a shame as I did have one of these many moons ago but left behind when we moved house 14 years ago. I wonder if they still have it! Many thanks all once again.

Nuggy replied on 07/05/2017 17:45

Posted on 07/05/2017 17:45

Something to bear in mind, last week I had a slow puncture on a car wheel which fortunately the local garage managed to repair. When I returned home I decided to check the wheel nut torque. Could I slacken the wheel nuts? no chance, even with my spider brace. The nuts were on so tight they were impossible for me to budge. So I couldn't have changed the wheel even if I needed to. I had to go back to the garage. Their air gun was set for too high. 

IanH replied on 07/05/2017 18:46

Posted on 07/05/2017 18:46

As I said above, changing a wheel on the motorway (or anywhere else) is pefectly do-able. If you have the right jack (a trolley jack).

Unless of ourse you are worried that a plunging aircraft might hit you. In which case, it's best that you stay permanently indoors. wink

Randomcamper replied on 07/05/2017 18:56

Posted on 07/05/2017 18:56

"Vehicles tend not to veer off the motorway into parked vehicles"

What a shockingly incorrect statement, I believe this is the biggest (and significant) cause of fatalities on a motorway.  I have personally witnessed this on the M74, killing one of the drivers.......

If I had a twin axle caravan and I got a puncture I would drive it (drag it) slowly on the one good tyre (on that side) to the nearest safe place, an exit or somewhere the hard shoulder fanned out or something. Being stopped on the hard shoulder is the most dangerous place there is in the UK and unless my vehicle was totally incapacitated, no way would I stop there.......

Tinwheeler replied on 07/05/2017 19:09

Posted on 07/05/2017 19:09

The easiest and safest way to lift a wheel on a TA van is to put a decent wedge under the other wheel on the same side and push/pull the van onto it. This will lift the whole side of the caravan.

Navigateur replied on 07/05/2017 20:05

Posted on 07/05/2017 20:05

I was thinking about getting the best of both worlds by cutting off the top of the Alco jack and using it to make an adaptor for the trolley jack.  Of course, I can't find the Alko jack any more.

Could some kind person who still has one and can master the photo uploading please pop on a picture of the said item.

IanH replied on 07/05/2017 20:12

Posted on 07/05/2017 20:12

I have one but cannot master the photo thing.......sorry.

But I agree, a trolly jack with a fitting to go in the Alko side brackets would be the best of all wolds.

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