I'm on to power inverters now.......

Rosie Rabbit replied on 07/09/2017 17:08

Posted on 07/09/2017 17:08

The dilemma - I'm finding it hard to find a car charger for my new laptop. At the back of my mind I seem to remember someone mentioning power inverters for plugging in a 3 pin plug to the DC supply?

Could some exceptionally brave person explain them to me and possiblly suggest what I need to do to make my laptop work with its 3 pin plug (sorry forgot to say - not on EHU)

Many many thanks

 

Navigateur replied on 08/09/2017 14:08

Posted on 08/09/2017 14:08

Onw CAN run a high wattage inverter from a cigar lighter socket as long as it is asked only to provide a low amount of power. It will draw but a small current.  As these sockets seem to be protected by 5 ampere fuses they can provide 60 watts. Pass that through the losses in an inverter and its cables and you have a maximum useful power about 55 watts even from a 4kW inverter.

Fitting the inverter permanently is a sensible idea as proper cables can be run from the battery to the inverter. As close as possible as the 12 volt losses are higher than at 240 volts per length of cable. I connect my inverters through the (smaller) size of Anderson Connectors (eBay will show you) so I can easily swap batteries about. 

The inverter powers some wiring seperate from the 240v EHU supplied wiring which goes to a second socket beside the microwave. Espresso machine and hair rollers can also be used on that socket, but not all at the same time!

Mikeman replied on 08/09/2017 16:42

Posted on 08/09/2017 16:42

Whilst an inverter will do the job, it is very inefficient - convert 12v to 240v and then get the laptop power pack to convert it back to 12v.

I suggest that you research "kensington 12v laptop charger" as these are designed to do the job you require from the cigar lighter socket.

 

Biggarmac replied on 09/09/2017 13:40

Posted on 07/09/2017 17:41 by Rosie Rabbit

Thanks for that.

Yes, I'm living the high life again. A few days of chasing the sun around with the solar panels and we have swung back to green.

I charge my phone, tablet and mobile broadband hub overnight and I am always amazed that solar panels let you do that with 'free energy'. I'm like a big kid, you should see me in the window seat when taking off in a plane. Powered flight - wow!

Posted on 09/09/2017 13:40

Hi Rosie.  It would be better for your battery to charge your phone, tablet and mobile broadband etc during the day when there is free energy going to waste as your battery is already fully charged.  Charging overnight is drawing current from your battery which is not then being replaced until the next day.  Sometimes you have no choice about charging overnight, but choose daytime if you can.

Navigateur replied on 09/09/2017 14:21

Posted on 09/09/2017 14:21

convert 12v to 240v and then get the laptop power pack to convert it back to 12v.

Unfortunately that does not work as the typical laptop - as opposed to tablet - requires 18 or more volts to charge.

There are laptop chargers that do it straight from 12 volts but the last time I priced one I could get a decent inverter for the same money - and it would run other things as well.

caravanerkarl replied on 09/09/2017 20:06

Posted on 09/09/2017 19:43 by bigherb

If you just want to power a laptop and charge phones etc. I use one of these been running my laptop been quite well for the last couple of years.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-DC-to-240V-AC-150W-Power-Inverter-USB-Car-Boat-for-PSP-NDS-Laptop-Charger-WS-/263012633230?epid=0&hash=item3d3cc64a8e:g:5fkAAOSwLVZVlTiC

Posted on 09/09/2017 20:06

Although I am always cautious of buying and using anything to do with mains or 12v that comes direct from China.

Maplin do an equivalent :https://www.maplin.co.uk/p/ring-automotive-mp60-12v-modified-sinewave-45w-inverter-a88uk

 

dreamer1 replied on 09/09/2017 20:25

Posted on 07/09/2017 17:41 by Rosie Rabbit

Thanks for that.

Yes, I'm living the high life again. A few days of chasing the sun around with the solar panels and we have swung back to green.

I charge my phone, tablet and mobile broadband hub overnight and I am always amazed that solar panels let you do that with 'free energy'. I'm like a big kid, you should see me in the window seat when taking off in a plane. Powered flight - wow!

Posted on 09/09/2017 20:25

Not wanting to sound rude but your electric will not be free unless you were given your solar panel, i am interested in how long it will be before you get a return on your investment never looked into having one fitted and it would be interesting to know.

Bakers2 replied on 09/09/2017 20:57

Posted on 09/09/2017 20:25 by dreamer1

Not wanting to sound rude but your electric will not be free unless you were given your solar panel, i am interested in how long it will be before you get a return on your investment never looked into having one fitted and it would be interesting to know.

Posted on 09/09/2017 20:57

Dreamer1 this thread may offer you so idea

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/welcome-hobby-talk/tips-for-making-caravanning-touring-cheaper/whats-it-cost-to-get-ehu-free/?er=P453236#P453236

Our motorhome had a solar panel on when we purchased but it's only since reading the thread how to survive with ehu have we really appreciated it's worth. Just a decade 😲. But no articles in very layman's terms we just thought it was great at keeping the alarm battery and engine battery topped up. 

Boff replied on 09/09/2017 23:57

Posted on 09/09/2017 20:25 by dreamer1

Not wanting to sound rude but your electric will not be free unless you were given your solar panel, i am interested in how long it will be before you get a return on your investment never looked into having one fitted and it would be interesting to know.

Posted on 09/09/2017 23:57

For us the payback was instant because it meant we weren't shackled to the Orange cable. 

Merve replied on 10/09/2017 10:06

Posted on 09/09/2017 20:25 by dreamer1

Not wanting to sound rude but your electric will not be free unless you were given your solar panel, i am interested in how long it will be before you get a return on your investment never looked into having one fitted and it would be interesting to know.

Posted on 10/09/2017 10:06

Dreamer, The fitting of a 135w panel, an extra 110ah battery and a 2000w PSW inverter in 2013 was the best thing I have ever done in my caravanning life! As Boff says, it all depends on how you look at it. I quite agree with him that the payback is immediate from the point of view of freedom from the umbilical cord. Purely in monetary terms though, every night I spend away approximately £8 - £10 is saved give or take. So I guess the first 85 nights were payback. Don't forget this was 4 years ago- prices have fallen well since then. I now camp at a third of the price I used to and am no worse off comfortwise A Safefill cylinder has also added positively to the experience. Again, around £150 for a cylinder isn't cheap but then you realise that you will save many many times that with cheaper gas for the lifetime of the cylinder which, looked after, will be decades. As others have said, seek out the non EHU threads - happy reading- I think if you approach it in a positive way and not in a unbelieving and mocking way you will get a lot out of it. Many of us now are turning to non EHU and finding not is it possible but extremely satisfying and so so much cheaper. Good luck. 

near Malvern Hills Club Campsite Member photo by Andrew Cole

Book a late escape

There's still availability at many popular UK Club campsites - find your perfect pitch today for a last minute trip!

Book now
Woman sitting in camping chair by Wastwater in the Lake District with her two dogs and picnic blanket

Follow us on Facebook

Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for latest news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers.

Photo of Wast Water, Lake District by Sue Peace
Visit Facebook